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    Only advice I have for tanks is STOP PULLING WITH PROVOKE IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING xP
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    Zyxt Fair
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazi View Post
    Only advice I have for tanks is STOP PULLING WITH PROVOKE IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING xP
    Pulling is fine if you need the range AND there will be no immediate threat of anyone ripping threat off you.

    Using it mid combo for no reason however...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazi View Post
    Only advice I have for tanks is STOP PULLING WITH PROVOKE IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING xP
    It is the longest range ability we have. I pull with it all the time, but then I usually follow it up with a flash or a lob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazi View Post
    Only advice I have for tanks is STOP PULLING WITH PROVOKE IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING xP
    Yah the point of pull with provoke is NOT to get hate its to be able to pull the mob DUH, I guess you are not a tank if you dont know that. Shield Lob range is extremly low and there are many situations in which you need a bigger range. So its better to pull with provoke than let a bard or a blm pull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronyx View Post
    Yah the point of pull with provoke is NOT to get hate its to be able to pull the mob DUH, I guess you are not a tank if you dont know that. Shield Lob range is extremly low and there are many situations in which you need a bigger range. So its better to pull with provoke than let a bard or a blm pull.
    Pulling with provoke is the same as face pulling, you get 0 aggro from it. Just run up and Shield Lob it, if someone else pulls guess what? NOW PROVOKE DOES SOMETHING :O
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    Last edited by Saccharin; 01-17-2014 at 02:56 PM.

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    Erika Indira
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazi View Post
    Pulling with provoke is the same as face pulling, you get 0 aggro from it. Just run up and Shield Lob it, if someone else pulls guess what? NOW PROVOKE DOES SOMETHING :O
    true story, a waste if you already have hate. provoke is to save people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazi View Post
    Pulling with provoke is the same as face pulling, you get 0 aggro from it. Just run up and Shield Lob it, if someone else pulls guess what? NOW PROVOKE DOES SOMETHING :O
    If someone else pulls then every mob linked with their target goes straight to them.

    The enmity difference between pulling a faraway mob with provoke and lobbing/overpowering/flashing when it is in range and provoking after a dps pulls and lobbing/overpowering/flashing is so negligible as to be laughable, and if I provoke to pull all the linked mobs will run to me, not a dps. And it requires a lot less coordination with dps I may not know or be able to communicate with in a timely manner.

    Do I provoke every pull? Of course not, don't be obtuse. But there are situations when it's beneficial. Your counter arguments are misguided to say the least.
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    Last edited by Ferth; 01-17-2014 at 03:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazi View Post
    Only advice I have for tanks is STOP PULLING WITH PROVOKE IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING xP
    I pull with provoke because it has a much smaller aggro radius than shield lob, as well as greater range. I could alternatively just pull everything at once, those are your options.
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    Last edited by WhaleBiologist; 01-17-2014 at 03:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhaleBiologist View Post
    I pull with provoke because it has a much smaller aggro radius than shield lob. I could alternatively just pull everything at once, those are your options.
    Better do what he says...

    He's a whale biologist!

    (My life is complete. Thank you.)
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