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    Its mainly to start dungeons and entering bosses without having to wait on buffs.
    Nothing is being handed to you since you were gonna have to use the spells at beginning of every dungeon or titan fight...

    Not earning buffs during cutscenes is another issue all together which should be fixed

    After wiping to Turn5 so many times it must be annoying to see healers have to reapply buffs over and over and over before engaging twin.

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    Actions are still there for you to use but mainly to reapply in combat and after combat.
    Also SCH vs WHM buffs. What ever potency of protect or stoneskin replaces the other.
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    Last edited by Beetle; 01-17-2014 at 06:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Its mainly to start dungeons and entering bosses without having to wait on buffs.
    Nothing is being handed to you since you were gonna have to use the spells at beginning of every dungeon or titan fight...

    Not earning buffs during cutscenes is another issue all together which should be fixed

    After wiping to Turn5 so many times it must be annoying to see healers have to reapply buffs over and over and over before engaging twin.

    Edit:

    Actions are still there for you to use but mainly to reapply in combat and after combat.
    Also SCH vs WHM buffs. What ever potency of protect or stoneskin replaces the other.
    In most higher level encounters, in the time it takes to buff the party, there's a quick strategy meeting. Usually I or the WHM has finished buffing the party before people have agreed on what stats to use for the fight. You're not really saving much time by making buffs auto applied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Its mainly to start dungeons and entering bosses without having to wait on buffs.
    Nothing is being handed to you since you were gonna have to use the spells at beginning of every dungeon or titan fight...

    Not earning buffs during cutscenes is another issue all together which should be fixed

    After wiping to Turn5 so many times it must be annoying to see healers have to reapply buffs over and over and over before engaging twin.

    Edit:

    Actions are still there for you to use but mainly to reapply in combat and after combat.
    Also SCH vs WHM buffs. What ever potency of protect or stoneskin replaces the other.
    wow and you are serious about this o.O? i thought it was joke first
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikoto_qc View Post
    wow and you are serious about this o.O? i thought it was joke first
    I don't know what's worse, the fact that OP is actually serious about this or that there are responses trying to agree/validate with OP....

    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    I think my point is valid. I don't see why monk's fists stay when nothing else does.
    Not disagreeing with you, but it is super annoying having to re-apply the fists when level syncing for Fate-grinding. Every time I level sync in Coerthas for a fate grind I have to re-apply, even if I don't sync below level 40 (which is the level you get Fists of Fire). It still comes off. Hate that!!

    Maybe I should go start a thread asking the devs to spend their time changing this....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Like to see Whms get auto protect & stoneskin everytime they enter a dungeon or fight or restart a fight after a wipe. Would make playing healer much more enjoyable not having to reapply those buffs all the time after a wipe. Have it trigger when players are stuck within the circle barrier at the beginning of every dunegon or fight.

    Yes, no? Good feature to have?
    Great idea.

    Also an auto heal mode , so healers only have to move into correct position to avoid AOE while the heal spells will work automatically. You could also just go auto follow on a DPS instead and go watch a movie maybe?

    Another cool idea would be auto taunt for tanks .
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    I also think this could be addressed by making an out of combat group stoneskin. Then it's just protect and group stoneskin.

    Some like selecting each person and waiting a couple seconds, but I'm fine skipping it. It also would let me put stoneskins on dps without making people wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndigoHawk View Post
    I also think this could be addressed by making an out of combat group stoneskin. Then it's just protect and group stoneskin.

    Some like selecting each person and waiting a couple seconds, but I'm fine skipping it. It also would let me put stoneskins on dps without making people wait.
    To be honest, I'd be happy if they gave Scholar our 18% stoneskin trait and gave WHM the ability to cast an AoE version of it as compensation. It feels weird having to re-skin players who already have the buff simply because the Scholar version is inferior to our own. Yes, that goes for Protect too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
    to be fair stoneskinning dps before encounters is pretty much a waste of time to begin with.
    it's such a small amount on them that getting hit will strip it and hit them hard enough to require healing afterwards anyways
    I really hope you're not a healer, because that kind of thinking is what gets people killed.

    Damage mitigation is never wasted. It's either cures which don't need to be used later or a hitpoint buffer if they're attacked with a big hitter. I've seen plenty of DPS get hit by the bosses big skills (mostly melee) and stoneskin can be the difference between them dying or surviving the assault.
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    Last edited by Lemuria; 01-17-2014 at 06:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    I really hope you're not a healer, because that kind of thinking is what gets people killed.

    Damage mitigation is never wasted. It's either cures which don't need to be used later or a hitpoint buffer if they're attacked with a big hitter. I've seen plenty of DPS get hit by the bosses big skills (mostly melee) and stoneskin can be the difference between them dying or surviving the assault.
    I am a healer that's been killing twintania for over 10 weeks straight with no problems and clear all 3 extremes each week as well
    stoneskin has plenty of great uses but buffering anyone but the tank with it before fights is mostly a waste of time
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    Last edited by Nihility; 01-17-2014 at 07:52 PM.

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    +1 for group stoneskin, make it auto does not saves time
    it just plain lazy
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    You really dont need to stoneskin everyone anyway.
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