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    Buffing the party is considered fun now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Like to see Whms get auto protect & stoneskin everytime they enter a dungeon or fight or restart a fight after a wipe. Would make playing healer much more enjoyable not having to reapply those buffs all the time after a wipe. Have it trigger when players are stuck within the circle barrier at the beginning of every dunegon or fight.

    Yes, no? Good feature to have?
    No, I don't consider it a good feature to have. Swiftcast -> Protect and then just SS everyone. It's not too much of a hassle as it is now, and it's not something that's needed. In 1.0, I believe Sacred Prism would allow us to do aoe SS. They removed this feature for some reason, but to me that pretty much clearly says they would never implement auto-anything. As healers, we have to do our job by casting them. If it were auto-cast on everyone, kind of like the buff you get while fighting Ultima (story mode) , it would have to be something we can't cast ourselves, so no thanks. Although going in with SS and Protect is a must, it's still our responsibility to do the casting. It would be dumb to have something we can cast ourselves being automatically handed.
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    Last edited by Crimen; 01-17-2014 at 08:09 AM.

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    I think auto is too much like a few have said, as well as doesn't guarantee that the WHM is actually ready (where's our ready check?). Give conjurer or arcanist an AoE ability the likes of swiftcast that turns single target spells to AoE. Using the similar skill SCH has in FFXI is makes Healing or buff single target spells AoE doubling cast time and MP cost. This would make the recovery a bit faster and even have use in some combat situations. Example such and aduqulin AoEed to Galvanize for an incoming big hit for SCH or the AoE stoneskin for WHM. Would be interesting if it was a arcanist skill and BLM had access to it to idk AoE flare perhaps?
    Recovery is already fast after a wipe. Even is it was auto, usually, unless no one cares what went wrong and pass out a few hints, advice and/or pointers, there is a bit of talk to prep before another go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Like to see Whms get auto protect & stoneskin everytime they enter a dungeon or fight or restart a fight after a wipe. Would make playing healer much more enjoyable not having to reapply those buffs all the time after a wipe. Have it trigger when players are stuck within the circle barrier at the beginning of every dunegon or fight.

    Yes, no? Good feature to have?
    You can write a macro for it, that buff the whole party with only 1 button
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    I don't know what to say :v
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    ^^^^Like they said...just write the macro if you are not wanting to do it manually.
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    So...first of, just no. It doesn't take that long for 1 healer to Protect/SS 4 people (which is technically all they'd ever have to do since parties are either 1:4 or 2:8 healer:member ratios)

    That said, we're only level 50. This is NOT endgame. Maybe we WILL get an AoE Stoneskin Spell at a higher level. Who knows.

    But really, I typically am waiting on 1-2 party members to even stop 'viewing cutscene' let alone behind on my buffs. Typically I have at least half of the party SS'd before the final person is even out of their CS and I can actually cast protect.

    So...what's your rush?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Like to see Whms get auto protect & stoneskin everytime they enter a dungeon or fight or restart a fight after a wipe. Would make playing healer much more enjoyable not having to reapply those buffs all the time after a wipe. Have it trigger when players are stuck within the circle barrier at the beginning of every dunegon or fight.

    Yes, no? Good feature to have?
    Yeah, because WHM is sooooo hard to play without having to recast buffs. I've played tanks on my other character, and healers and DDs on this one. WHM is BY FAR the easiest job to play of them all, sooooo, I don't get it. Why are you complaining again?
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    to be fair stoneskinning dps before encounters is pretty much a waste of time to begin with.
    it's such a small amount on them that getting hit will strip it and hit them hard enough to require healing afterwards anyways
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
    to be fair stoneskinning dps before encounters is pretty much a waste of time to begin with.
    it's such a small amount on them that getting hit will strip it and hit them hard enough to require healing afterwards anyways
    so... you having to use a extra cure to cure them wasting mp in mid combat & titan stomps doesn't remove stoneskins got ya since the dps can dodge it. Good to know.
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