Is anyone else scared of dungeons or trying to progress?

[Kal-El]

Sure this story has been posted here before but definitely worth a read. If I could wish for 1 thing in 2.2 it would be the nice community that were around in beta when they didn't have a clue what to do!

Anyway have a read - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7864486403

[Zaels]

Oh look, someone actually thinks that when someone else wants to be treated with a bit of respect, they're apparently "suicidal".

Sorry buddy, but I don't consider it "stepping on pins and needles" when I choose not to belittle and verbally abuse someone else over a little mistake. The online environment is harsh because people like yourself treat abusive behavior as somehow acceptable.

[Archona]

wow.. just wow.

Wow.. you assume I am? No, I am speaking out because over the years I have time and time again seen headlines of someone killing themselves because of a MMORPG community. They kill themselves because they were kicked out of a guild, or someone hacked their account. I have seen people ruin their marriages, their careers, drop out of school all because of the almighty allure of being the most L33T or OP person in their game of choice. I know kids play this game that can barely type a sentence. I know older people play it. My point is that YOU DONT KNOW WHO YOU ARE GROUPED WITH.

I am a older player. Real life always has and always will be more important to me than a game. I have a family, child, husband and I believe in treating people like PEOPLE. That doesn't mean you have to walk on pins and needles. Just talk to them the way you would to a person you know in real life. As for the lame "get therapy" comments that are often made when someone protests.. it sounds like the people who need the therapy are the ones who think its OK to treat others like trash. Its called bullying. Its not right here or elsewhere. If you think it is... time to unplug.

People commit suicide every day over broken relationships, sporting events, musical lyrics and scenes from TV shows and movies, I hope you don't support any of those industries! The truth is the snowball has been rolling long before the moment you hear about it in the news, and the sensationalist media picks up on whatever buzzwords they want in order to fit their agenda. Personal problems are personal. It is not anybody's problem that you cannot handle text but your own. Your argument is fallacious. If you need an adult to supervise you while you play, then ask a parent or guardian. If you want to participate in an online community with real people then you need to make sure that you're a mature adult and can handle it yourself.

edit: Again, for those who did not bother to read the entire thread: I am not saying you shouldn't be nice. Of course you should, and its important to surround yourself with people who aren't jerks. However, the nature of the world and the internet dictates that you will run into people you do not agree with and cannot get along with. You still need to learn to deal with it. The tools are in game, whether its server transfers, blacklisting, reporting, or shutting chat off completely. If you cannot separate words said on the internet in a video game setting from personal problems, then maybe you should seek professional help. Coming onto the boards and spouting altruism and utopian ideals is nice, but it does nothing to change the reality of things. Ignore people you dislike and learn to enjoy yourself instead of complaining about people who complain about you. Do not expect people to treat you differently, nor should you expect immediate respect, patience, or praise. Its called trash talking for a reason; its mostly garbage that people are spewing when they're insulting you. Don't go into a comedy club and take everything the comic says seriously. Don't go into a game played by a myriad of people from different culture backgrounds and age groups and take them seriously either. You are not a special snowflake.

If you want to continue to exist in the real world at all, you need to learn to not take every damn sentence you hear personally, especially by faceless strangers who have no way of influencing you unless you let them.

[Caraway]

Words only have value when you give them value. Not sure why you would take anyone seriously when they say anything on the internet. Its the internet, and we're dealing with avatars in a video game. This isn't Facebook, we don't know each other in real life. None of it is real. This is what people mean by "grow thicker skin". Ignore the nonsense and enjoy your game.

Not only do I agree with LiadansWhisper that this is just complete and utter bullshit (words always have power and incorrectly used can have major consequences) but it shows that you utterly miss the point.

People shouldn't have to deal with this. They should have to "grow thicker skin." How about instead, people treat people like they're living, breathing human beings instead of pixels on a screen? The OP, and anyone who's been put in the same position, have every right to feel upset. This is abysmal behavior and should not be tolerated by any community with any degree of maturity.

If you want to participate in an online community with real people then you need to make sure that you're a mature adult and can handle it yourself.

I'm sorry but no. A mature adult knows the value of treating strangers with dignity and respect. Something you appear to not quite understand.

[Kat_Manx]

If you want to participate in an online community with real people then you need to make sure that you're a mature adult and can handle it yourself.

But I thought we aren't real. /grin

[Zaels]

tl;dr: more victim blaming

It's outright disgusting that people treat abusive online behaviour as acceptable, and tell others to simply "deal with it" as if the victims are in the wrong. Reminds me of those screwed up guys in politics blaming rape victims rather than rapists.

[IndigoHawk]

Unfortunately FFXIV is success and grind focused. If someone dies with you, they get nothing. Playing the game is not rewarded. Only succeeding and grinding is rewarded.

This design helps create a negative environment. The game is a job, where people don't care about others, don't play for fun, and only play for rewards. People are frustrated if they don't get rewards.

Also, the endgame is too difficult for pugs. Titan HM, EM fights, and others are not tuned for DF. DF groups have little chance of success, which again contributes to a negative environment.

I don't play games to grind, so I have fun failing or succeeding as long as people are trying and having fun. However, FFXIV does not reward playing for fun, and does not foster good attitudes in the community.

FFXIV should make DF fights easier, and also give rewards if the group plays the full time but fails. There would still be jerks, but anything would help.

[Kat_Manx]

Anyhow I wanted to state that I have not asked for princess treatment. Just for people to be.. civil. Normal. Imagine yourself yelling out a sentence you are typing online to a random stranger you just met on the street. Do you think they would be cool with said sentence? If the answer is no, don't type it.

[Richiealvian]

I've seen some people say to research videos before going to an encounter. I've always been going in blind my first time round, and only recently I've seen it.. "If you don't know the fight you're wasting everyone's time. Go play an offline game." That's a bit interesting and outrageous, I think. I'm proud to say I'm a fairly decent healer, I've beaten all the hard content in game and have been one shotting titan EX these few weeks. 90% of the time I'm the last man standing if there's a wipe, too. But I went in CT as a tank, with my friends..

Yes, my friends, my static, the ones I've always trained together for all contents with and when i didn't get the Allagan Bombs in Vassago they were like
"Dude, where have you been all this time? What have you been doing all your CT runs?"

I've tanked for CT a couple times before, but I was the main tank and not the offtank. I never watch videos unless I'm constantly wiping at it. I cleared all titan, ifrit, garuda going in blind, only twintania I watched videos because we've been wiping for 5 weeks.

Then the word appeared: "If you're going to waste everyone's time, this is an MMO, you're playing with other people." What are your thoughts on this exactly? I personally think it's outrageous.. I always say I will go in blind unless we keep wiping, and I have done so perfectly with my healer. I was just still noob a tank.. I just didn't want to spoil myself, and I believe I am good enough to learn by experiencing it and not having to watch videos. After all, those people who made the videos had no video to begin with! Have we fallen that low?

[Ayuruk]

Some people r just elitist nobs. No one knows why they r like that. Maybe they were never loved as children. I personally love helping and teaching new players. we all were new at one point.