Finally had my first run of Qarn last night. It was the highest lvl dungeon I had run after Haukke, and as far as I could tell, the first of the "medium" difficulty dungeons like Brayflox et al. that I've tried running.

It was also my first experience with groups giving up after 1 or 2 wipes. I had two DF parties fall apart before the first boss or after one wipe on the first boss. Frankly, I was irritated but I understood that the tank in both cases didn't want to teach the whole dungeon to the group.

Try number 3 we get in, tank immediately mentions it's his first time in dungeon, turns out it was also the healer's and mine as well (BRD). The only experienced person was the other DPS, who was jp. We jump right into it, and begin wiping on the first boss. We actually wiped to Terataur 7 times, I think we all knew the mechanics by try 3 or so, but we couldn't down it until 45 minutes of trying.

Still, we all talked through it after each run, the other DPS was trying his best to explain things to the Tank and I was assisting with what I knew (glowing tiles removes Doom, Bees kill in 1 hit). We run through the whole rest of the dungeon as fast a we can and by that turn we were a well oiled machine, downed the 2nd midboss and the actual boss on try #1.

Just want to give some other players a bit of hope. We were all pretty discouraged by our repeated failures, but no one left and we all stuck through it till the end, finished with 10 minutes on the clock. Also, nothing good dropped. But it's still my favorite dungeon run yet.