Is anyone else scared of dungeons or trying to progress?

[rabbitzero]

it's cause they are the same people. those people never played games like FFXI.

I played FFXI, and saw just as many toxic people as here, so people stop needing to use that as a reason.

Yeah, Crystal Tower is a cesspit. I have stopped queuing for it as a result - I'm so sick of the people in there. They make the place god awful.

I keep seeing people say this, but i've yet to run into it, at all. The worst people have been those wanting to speed run the story mode DR. CT i see people not speaking up if they don't know the fight, and causing wipes, but not the cesspit descriptions people are saying, or even the trolling. Almost every run i've done has just been smooth, couple with wipes, but not the toxic attitudes or trolling i've read so much about. Had a bugged boss once, but that's all.

[SendohJin]

I played FFXI, and saw just as many toxic people as here, so people stop needing to use that as a reason.

this game has a lot more servers and i have no idea how you go about counting "just as many".

[MirielleLavandre]

I played FFXI, and saw just as many toxic people as here, so people stop needing to use that as a reason.

Except in FFXI there was accountability - I played FFXI since NA launch, for 8 years, and I never saw anything near the level of meanness that DF and the anonymity of grouping in FF14 fosters. Surely there were Sky elitists, LS rages over spawns and grieving people for pops, and even some 'must have certain Atma' once Abyssea came out, but on the whole, people who were completely and utterly toxic were quickly blacklisted and word spread. I recall quite a few people on Shiva who had to re-roll once their 'reputation' got to be so bad that no one would party with them.

Here, you don't "need" to have a good reputation. The actions you do rarely have repercussions outside of the occasional report for said mean people being banned or put in jail due to reports. I'm not one of those so-called 'thin skinned' people, but I do feel empathy with them and sympathy for them. No one deserves to be abused about a game - so often people forget there are humans with feelings behind their avatar.