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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Yet you are not helping them in any way or fashion. You are not paying them to keep the game afloat. You don't need more than to log in and run around for a minute to check out the changes, give your feedback and log out.

    There is essentially nothing that you are doing to help this game by having played it this far. The game will do well or fail irregardless of whether you log in every day or not.
    Makes no sense..........

    If we all just left and didnt play the devs would have no reason to improve it because its got no players... Why do you think it became f2p? So we'd stay.

    So... We stay, we play, and the devs are trying their hardest (Even if i dont agree on that) to pull the game back out of the mud because they know people are playing and want it to survive.

    They release an update if theres no one to play it, how will they know its any good? or know our likes/dislikes if we're not playing to tell them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post

    If we all just left and didnt play the devs would have no reason to improve it because its got no players... Why do you think it became f2p? So we'd stay.
    They are looking to bring people back, not keep people in.

    They can shut down the servers and work on the game that way. Or they can keep the servers up so whoever feels like playing can play.

    There's little difference. You play, you don't play, servers are online, servers are offline. As long as the PS3 release is a success, everything else that happens in-between is irrelevant.

    Every person posting here signals SE that they want the game to survive. All you do in-game is increase SE's server load for no good reason at all.

    And as I already said, testing the changes so far and giving feedback takes an hour a month, tops. That's all it takes to help the devs at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    They are looking to bring people back, not keep people in.

    They can shut down the servers and work on the game that way. Or they can keep the servers up so whoever feels like playing can play.

    There's little difference. You play, you don't play, servers are online, servers are offline. As long as the PS3 release is a success, everything else that happens in-between is irrelevant.

    Every person posting here signals SE that they want the game to survive. All you do in-game is increase SE's server load for no good reason at all.

    And as I already said, testing the changes so far and giving feedback takes an hour a month, tops. That's all it takes to help the devs at this point.
    If they didn't want to keep people in it would be P2P.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeno View Post
    If they didn't want to keep people in it would be P2P.
    At this point, anyone still playing the game is a beta tester.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    They are looking to bring people back, not keep people in.

    They can shut down the servers and work on the game that way. Or they can keep the servers up so whoever feels like playing can play.

    There's little difference. You play, you don't play, servers are online, servers are offline. As long as the PS3 release is a success, everything else that happens in-between is irrelevant.

    Every person posting here signals SE that they want the game to survive. All you do in-game is increase SE's server load for no good reason at all.

    And as I already said, testing the changes so far and giving feedback takes an hour a month, tops. That's all it takes to help the devs at this point.
    I find your Sig strangely ironic based on your posts in this thread.

    I think as FFXIV is undergoing this transformation it would be in SE's best interest to keep the current player base happy, are we there target audience no not really all the people who already left and the people who never played it are BUT that doesn't mean they should ignore us. Chances are if they change things and the feed back they get from the current players is positive then it will be well received by new players as well.

    Also they should definitely keep the servers up as we all know of the problems they are having with server load. Lets say that SE takes it offline and does manage to create the ultimate FF MMO they fire the servers back up and oh dear they can't handle the potential millions of people trying to play, that would be a disaster. So yes they should keep the servers up so they can work out the kinks or invest in new tech to handle it and what better way to test it than through us. Is there enough of us currently playing to full test their servers, probably not but if they are already having problems with the Market Wards imagine if a huge influx of players joined, what problems would that create. At least now they are aware of these problems and can be working on solutions.

    It is a sad fact that we must all admit we are currently playing a glorified beta, however we need to utilise this chance to help SE design and build the best game they possibly can. If something is good we should tell them, if it is bad then we should also tell them. I am not saying they should follow our every whim but amongst all of the feedback given there could be that one little gem, that one idea could really help them to build a better game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd View Post
    I find your Sig strangely ironic based on your posts in this thread.
    So I take it that means... you disagree with me? 'Kay.

    I think as FFXIV is undergoing this transformation it would be in SE's best interest to keep the current player base happy, are we there target audience no not really all the people who already left and the people who never played it are BUT that doesn't mean they should ignore us. Chances are if they change things and the feed back they get from the current players is positive then it will be well received by new players as well.
    They haven't taken the service offline, and they even threw a few bones for you that they didn't really have to while waiting. They are doing too much for you considering the size of the playerbase really.

    Also they should definitely keep the servers up as we all know of the problems they are having with server load. Lets say that SE takes it offline and does manage to create the ultimate FF MMO they fire the servers back up and oh dear they can't handle the potential millions of people trying to play, that would be a disaster.
    Yes, it's in their best interests to have one server up to act as a test server. How does the current 500 players per server help them in any way?

    It is a sad fact that we must all admit we are currently playing a glorified beta, however we need to utilise this chance to help SE design and build the best game they possibly can. If something is good we should tell them, if it is bad then we should also tell them. I am not saying they should follow our every whim but amongst all of the feedback given there could be that one little gem, that one idea could really help them to build a better game.
    And like I said, an hour a month keeps the bad design decisions away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    And like I said, an hour a month keeps the bad design decisions away.
    Yes but I'm sure a lot of people want to play an improved 14 this year, not in 2049.
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