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  1. #81
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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dorin View Post
    If I queue for a dungeon "IN PROGRESS", why the rat should I deal with a dungeon "STARTING NOW, NOT IN PROGRESS"?

    Don't blame the players if the system is flawed and doesn't work properly.
    Just blame the players for abusing the system that was designed to allow players open for entering a in progress dungeon to help out a party that lost a member for whatever reason, not to fish for your own personal benefit.
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  2. #82
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    Karnyboy's Avatar
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    Sigmund Felsword
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I'm still confused as to how Join a party in progress also = new group.

    I think the basic fix and function to the issue is right there.
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  3. #83
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    Ri_ri's Avatar
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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Just blame the players for abusing the system that was designed to allow players open for entering a in progress dungeon to help out a party that lost a member for whatever reason, not to fish for your own personal benefit.
    Marked the only true part. Everything else is on your mind.
    Somehow people start creating ideals and rules in their minds and wants to force everyone else to follow it.
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  4. #84
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    joshsecret's Avatar
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    Pep Per
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    Cactuar
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    this is a cause and effect situation. the effect is people fishing which is annoying, yes. but the cause is CT itself. the raid came out at a time that is less than optimal. personally, my main is almost full 90 while my back-up (and only other job) uses CT for gear. after finding out which piece drops by which boss, i then cater my run towards that particular goal. i am a fisher but not for a 2/4 or 3/4. the only items i need are from the 1st two bosses and myth tomes are easier to get then candy. moral of the story, not everyone who fishes is looking to swoop in on the last guy. sadly, i only see it getting worse in the future which is why after 2 more weeks or 1 week and 1 lucky coil, i will be able to avoid that entire mess until 2.3!
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  5. 01-17-2014 03:46 PM

  6. #85
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    Raucent's Avatar
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    Raucent Valefor
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    Hyperion
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by YuriRamona View Post
    Players can have a multitude of reasons for exclusively joining in-progress, including desiring CT loot near the end of that dungeon. Again, the more appropriate solution in this instance is to delay all loot until the very end; Acheron should reward 4 pieces, instead of having each mini-boss reward 1.
    i don't see how that would limit Fishers in any way, that would actually seem to GREATLY ENCOURAGE it unless there was a lotting restriction on join in progress such as Greed Lot only or something, why should a last minute entry into a dungeon get the same lotting access as those who did all of the legwork to get to Achgeron
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  7. #86
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    synaesthetic's Avatar
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    Aeriyn Ashley
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Dorin View Post
    If I queue for a dungeon "IN PROGRESS", why the rat should I deal with a dungeon "STARTING NOW, NOT IN PROGRESS"?

    Don't blame the players if the system is flawed and doesn't work properly.

    If a player checks the "IN PROGRESS" square, put them ONLY in dungeons in progress, or in none at all.

    So, different queues. Problem solved.
    It's not designed for you to only get an in-progress dungeon. It's designed to ALLOW in-progress instance if they come up before a new lease does. Square does not (nor should they) want you to be able to selectively queue for dungeons that are half completed. Do you have any idea what that would do to queue times for CT?
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  8. #87
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    Ptolemy's Avatar
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    Alphard Alshua
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by synaesthetic View Post
    It's not designed for you to only get an in-progress dungeon. It's designed to ALLOW in-progress instance if they come up before a new lease does. Square does not (nor should they) want you to be able to selectively queue for dungeons that are half completed. Do you have any idea what that would do to queue times for CT?
    before anyone gets more warped ideas

    What they really want you to do with the in-progress option (9:00-11:00)
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  9. #88
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    Nihility's Avatar
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    Tenebria Miku
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    all they have to do is put in a 30 or 60 second cooldown on missed or ignored queue pops and it would fix the entire problem.
    for people playing normally and something comes up that causes them to have to miss a queue it would be completely negligible

    for people that queue 50 times in 5 minutes looking for an almost finished dungeon it would turn that 5 minutes into 25/50 minutes completely destroying the reason they're doing it to begin with
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  10. #89
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    Grailer's Avatar
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    Silver Healer
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    Adamantoise
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Why do people want to finish dungeons faster by getting last boss ?

    Because the game isn't fun and they only want the myth tomes for gear ?

    Solution : Make game more fun .
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  11. #90
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    Buster Posey
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    Coeurl
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Grailer View Post
    Why do people want to finish dungeons faster by getting last boss ?

    Because the game isn't fun and they only want the myth tomes for gear ?

    Solution : Make game more fun .
    How do you make necessary grind/farming fun?
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