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    FYI, finished capping my rank on both beast tribe 2 days ago. That's like straight 45 days doing equally on both tribes since day 1 of patch 2.1. No more reason coming back for it anymore.

    By the time patch 2.2 released, I think 1 more beast tribe added. If there's no mechanic changes, it'll took even less time to complete it. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinigamiB06 View Post
    In order to make the most out of roulette bonuses, one would have have to play every single day, and for us who work, that is just simply unrealistic. Please change it to allowances like the leves, so that those of us who only get to play once a week can reap the rewards like everyone else.
    Kind of defeats the purpose of "bonus." I mean, it's literally the game's implementation of: "Oh, you logged in every day and did a quest? Good for you, here's a cookie."

    It also gives players incentive to do roulettes daily. If tanks were like, 'eh, I will just do roulettes later in the week', then there would probably be a lot longer wait for DPS in the Roulette during the week.
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    Heh, I came into this thread expecting the total opposite of what it was actually about. I saw a thread about removing daily limits, and assumed it would be some hardcore basement-dweller whining about how they can't spend 16 hours a day every day hording tomes or somesuch, but it was actually a much more reasonable request: A guy's real-life obligations mean that he can only play a couple days per week, and that's hampering his ability to get through the Beast tribe quests.

    I sympathize, as some of my good friends are players with young kids at home, full-time jobs, etc, who simply can't find those "15 minutes per day" that's supposedly so easy to achieve. I'm honestly not sure what benefit SE gets from encouraging players to log in for a few minutes every day instead of for a long time on specific days, but I guess there must be something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Meanwhile, those of us with the patience to wait it out will have our mounts. You will never get anything in a mmo by arguing that you personally don't have the time when many others seem to be able to do it just fine. You are in the minority, or an outlier. Also, No one is forcing you to run this content for some "must have" reward. The content locks you out of nothing but a pet, a mount, and a few dyes. Hardly a big deal.
    It's also strange that folks are still assuming the OP is asking for more to be handed to him with less time investment. That is not the case. He is fully willing to spend exactly as much time doing the Beast Tribe quests as everyone else - he just wants to do it in single, long stretches once a week, rather than short, 15-minute segments every day.
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    Last edited by LineageRazor; 02-01-2014 at 05:58 AM.

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    Pages of not reading the OP as usual.

    Not everyone can play every day of the week. They can still have the same or similar amount of hours. Dailies are poorly designed because you have to do it every day unlike leves. I just never bothered starting them after what WoW did. If they ever unlock actual content or gearing options I'll just unsub.
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    Last edited by Tiraelina; 02-01-2014 at 06:18 AM.

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    "Have to do it every day"?

    I don't see any penalties if you don't. I even see people starting it really late, and goes on-off doing it.

    The only thing I get at the end, is more rip-off than actual reward itself. Of course, you are welcome to skip those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbinT View Post
    "Have to do it every day"?

    I don't see any penalties if you don't. I even see people starting it really late, and goes on-off doing it.

    The only thing I get at the end, is more rip-off than actual reward itself. Of course, you are welcome to skip those.
    Most likely it will be tied to story completion in the future. I was expecting to be able to save the Guildhests for the first new class they add (came into 2.0 with all 50's and leveled Arcanist via story), but lo and behold, I was forced to complete over half of them on a level 50 and waste thousands of exp to continue the storyline and unlock King Mog.

    If Sahagin's and Slyph's tribe quests are required to unlock Leviathan and Ramuh, respectively, I won't be surprised.
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    Last edited by CHunterX; 02-01-2014 at 07:59 AM.

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    I would be completely fine with having everything on a weekly lock out instead of daily.

    For the various roulettes, you'd have 7 bonuses you could use at any point during the week before being locked out until reset. The beast tribe quests could be repeated 7 times per week at any time, etc.

    It's the same system with more options for players to choose from. The current system almost makes the game feel like a chore at times because your forced to log in virtually every day or miss out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    It's the same system with more options for players to choose from. The current system almost makes the game feel like a chore at times because your forced to log in virtually every day or miss out.
    again, "forced"? forced for what?

    and what to "miss"? I didn't get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbinT View Post
    again, "forced"? forced for what?

    and what to "miss"? I didn't get it.
    You are not forced to level other classes, but without swiftcast (only one example) you can forget endgame...
    What is important for someone isnt for the other! So stop complaining if others say "must have"...
    Dailys is just one single example of beeing "forced", there are a lot more who miss cross-loot, just look at stone farming (only for basic gear and NO weapons!)
    SE is forced to add similar gear just because the ability to gain them is too specific and no cross-loot, so we end up in a balancing issue all the time while they could have solved the issue much better - other MMORPGs already learned their lessons...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Meanwhile, those of us with the patience to wait it out will have our mounts. You will never get anything in a mmo by arguing that you personally don't have the time when many others seem to be able to do it just fine. You are in the minority, or an outlier. Also, No one is forcing you to run this content for some "must have" reward. The content locks you out of nothing but a pet, a mount, and a few dyes. Hardly a big deal.
    You need up to 45 minutes for 6 dailys (depending on some conditions more or less timeconsuming) and SE will add at least 2 more tribes in near future, that makes it 90 minutes. So you will tell me they stop adding primals and beast tribes? How naive! Furthermore the dailys will not stay at this level of friendship, we will get more quests... My bad, if I join FFXIV next year i will never be able to finish any of them because all is set up for those who daily logon - look on achivements and "when" you are able to "achive" them. New players are on the bad end of the robe... burned
    Enter a themepark, pay for a rollercoaster and then after starting: "Reaching the finish line - lext year"... locks you out from doing other rollercoasters in the same park, because forcibly having to ride the first one till the end...
    About the "force" ... yea, true just jump out in mid air

    Quote Originally Posted by Illya View Post
    All you get from the dailies are some mounts. I don't see what's so heartbreaking about not being able to log in every day to do them on a schedule. You'll just get the mount a bit more slowly than the people who do log in every day. This is such a dumb thing to cry about.
    All you get from Ex primals is a weapon, next you tell us we can skip that too?
    All you get from CT is just ilevel80, next you tell us to skip there too...
    That kind of arguments make me sick, you can not tell where others have fun in!
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    Last edited by Yukiko; 02-01-2014 at 06:28 PM.

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    Player Versiroth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbinT View Post
    again, "forced"? forced for what?

    and what to "miss"? I didn't get it.
    I can gain a level every day on alts by doing the roulette. Which means I have to log in every day to get that bonus. So, again, you're gimping yourself unless you're logging in daily. It's not hard to get, really.
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