Do EX weapons need to get buffed?

[Jadmus]

I'm talking about the weapons you get from Aelina in Revenant's Toll - rewards from finishing all Extreme primal trials.

These weapons are pretty close to our Relic + 1 in terms of power, but we had to go through a handful of bosses and then Hard modes to get them.

It just seems to me that if we finish something on Extreme, the rewards should be much greater than the Hard mode reward. Then again, there's always the question of how strong is TOO strong for the current content.

I leave it to the opinions of you all. What should be done about these EX weapons?

[Marxam]

These weapons are fine as is. Some of them already look more badass than their Relic counter parts.

[Thorauku]

It's fine as it is. Mind you that the actual rewards from clearing the HM Primals are only i80. Whereas the EX Primals are i90. Saving you a whooping 900 mythology.

[Arcaloid]

No. Relic+1 was way too easy to get.
I feel that SE was expecting Titan HM to be a huge blocker like Titan EX, which didn't turn out to be.
Still, it's good to have a way to save 900 myth, so EX weapon is still worth getting even it's on the same level as Relic+1.

[blowfin]

No, these weapons are easier (less time consuming) to get than relic once you know the fights.

[Thorauku]

No. Relic+1 was way too easy to get.
I feel that SE was expecting Titan HM to be a huge blocker like Titan EX, which didn't turn out to be.
Still, it's good to have a way to save 900 myth, so EX weapon is still worth getting even it's on the same level as Relic+1.

Hello? It was a Huge Blocker than the Titan EX. It just happened that the game matured already making Titan HM a very easy fight.

[Ashira]

Some might say the same of items like the Allagan Cuirass Of Striking (90) from Twintania and the Melee Cyclas (90) bought with Tomestones of Mythology.

The difference is that you can potentially obtain an Aelina weapon every week; a Zenith weapon will cost you two weeks worth of Mythology that would otherwise be better spent on something else.

If you want a weapon that reflects the difficulty you had to endure to obtain it, beat Twintania for one of hers (95)

[Nihility]

it's just a quicker yet more difficult path to get 90 weapons that also almost all have better secondary stats than relic+1

[Icarian]

No, these weapons are easier (less time consuming) to get than relic once you know the fights.

This, It's pretty easy to do the three primals on monday before/after coil, you get tomes, jewelry and a free ilvl90 weapon on top of that, if they buffed them T5 weapons would serve no purpose, just like it did before 2.1 for some classes where the relic was superior to it.

[NeruMew]

I'm talking about the weapons you get from Aelina in Revenant's Toll - rewards from finishing all Extreme primal trials.

These weapons are pretty close to our Relic + 1 in terms of power, but we had to go through a handful of bosses and then Hard modes to get them.

It just seems to me that if we finish something on Extreme, the rewards should be much greater than the Hard mode reward. Then again, there's always the question of how strong is TOO strong for the current content.

I leave it to the opinions of you all. What should be done about these EX weapons?

You are comparing with the relics Zenith version, which also cost you 3 weeks of Myth farm... So nah, I think however that relics should have remained stronger, and they should have been a little bit more challenging to get. Maybe they could do something like extreme mode trials to be necessary to +1 your weapons. That would have been far more interesting .

Anyway, these are slot fillers imo, for alt jobs, they look nice but not very serious... (books and staves with faces? XD)

Some of them already are stronger in itemization than relics +1.

And as a last point, these are very easy to get, so no reason to make them better. You forget that when we got our relics we were wearing scrap gear, now everyone is atleast at ilvl 80+.