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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailok View Post
    It could happen. It's not like we're knockin' on the door or anything. Though, I'd like to think Yoshida really is in charge lol
    Tanaka or Koumoto although I admire them for their previous works in SE in FFXIV what I couldn't stand for these two were during the JP game magazine interview they made it sound like FFXIV is sooooooooooooooo great and everything was planned out really well.. but ended up with crap we're in now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailok View Post
    It could happen. It's not like we're knockin' on the door or anything. Though, I'd like to think Yoshida really is in charge lol
    If Yoshida isn't really in charge, I would say it's necessary to kick Tanaka out the door. If he has that much control over the department, why don't we just make him CEO of Square Enix already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvertearRen View Post
    If Yoshida isn't really in charge, I would say it's necessary to kick Tanaka out the door. If he has that much control over the department, why don't we just make him CEO of Square Enix already?
    I gotta respect Tanaka's older games, I really do, but I think he just got caught up in the whole "let's do something different" phase, and rejected most things that have been done before. I like new, I like fresh, but I also like functionality. I don't honestly think he's in charge still. In fact, I kind of hope that he's still there giving advice, with yoshida taking the reigns and making the big decisions. But that's me.
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    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

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    The goblin is not impressed with the comments regarding DX10/11 popularity needing to grow before it being supported. Ignoring latest technologies on a "next-gen" game is not a good look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meridian View Post
    The goblin is not impressed with the comments regarding DX10/11 popularity needing to grow before it being supported. Ignoring latest technologies on a "next-gen" game is not a good look.
    DX10/11 aren't mainstream though. Most PC games are still merely DX10/11 compliant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    And consoles continue to stymie innovation...

    DX9 is seven years old! STOP USING IT.
    lol, so console and handhelds are to blame? Ok. I think this is why people dislike PC gamers generally. You heard her developers, stop developing for consoles and handhelds, you're killing video gaming.

    Psst: Motion gaming isn't a new concept but I don't see it used heavily by PC games, so I'm pretty sure if anything it's PC gaming that's hurting innovation in gaming.
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    Last edited by Elexia; 06-21-2011 at 12:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    lol, so console and handhelds are to blame?
    No, a company full of management that keeps their heads in the sand and refuses to listen to their customers, combined with passive individuals who coddle Square Enix and refuse to give them any criticism or hold them to any level of accountability over their mistakes are to blame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    DX10/11 aren't mainstream though. Most PC games are still merely DX10/11 compliant.
    Yes, if they're the computers that Grandma uses to log onto the facebook. PCs built by gamers for playing games are fully DX10/11 compatible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    lol, so console and handhelds are to blame? Ok. I think this is why people dislike PC gamers generally. You heard her developers, stop developing for consoles and handhelds, you're killing video gaming.

    Psst: Motion gaming isn't a new concept but I don't see it used heavily by PC games, so I'm pretty sure if anything it's PC gaming that's hurting innovation in gaming.
    You put words in my mouth. I didn't say to stop developing for consoles. I said stop developing ONLY for consoles then porting over to the PC. Port from PC to console, not from console to PC. Your overall quality suffers otherwise.

    The way it was done back in the day was for games to be developed for PCs, because PCs always have the most advanced hardware (this is still true today), and they're the easiest to develop for (Since PCs are what's being used to write the program). The PC games that were deemed worthy were then ported onto the consoles. Games like Maniac Mansion, Prince of Persia, and Doom. Otherwise, console and PC gaming were separate entities. Much in the way handheld and motion gaming are separate from your "traditional" video games today.

    Right around the time Microsoft released the Xbox, that began to change. Microsoft made it super-easy for developers to write stuff for the Xbox. They made it that way so they could instantly be competitive with Sony and Nintendo in the console market. Now, all console makers have made it super-easy to develop for their consoles. They make sure their third party developers have all the incentive to keep programming for their console so they don't have to worry about hardware upgrades.

    Now, since spitting out console games is cheaper (and therefore more profitable), that's all most developers do now. Why bother making something that uses DX10 or DX11? The consoles don't use it.

    And here we are, playing the same games we've been playing since 2006.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Now, since spitting out console games is cheaper (and therefore more profitable), that's all most developers do now.
    Are they?

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    I dont know why people are surprised we all know SE is full of S**T as of late. Remember this interview?

    http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/27628...romichi-tanka/

    Edit: Maybe I am a bit harsh but still... I really hope things work out for the best.
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    Last edited by Point_Zero; 06-20-2011 at 11:10 PM.

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    no as direct 10/11 becomes more popluar more people will leave this outdated system and move on to better games. this next-gen game is stuck a few gens behind.

    mout more on point i have a comp that is direct 11 capable and am using a nvidia 580, but really this company is so incompetent that they cannot even get a system working that is direct9 correctly. what makes any of us believe they could handle getting the upgraded stuff working?
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