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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    Now, if they are gamers who like graphics, I really doubt that most of them are running around with crap GPUs.
    While this is true, FFXIV, even with the settings on low-medium (like mine are in some cases), it still looks like one of the best MMO's on the market.

    Not trying to be a jerk, but just because you think a fancy car is sexy, that doesn't mean you can afford one. I like good graphics too, and my system can still run FFXIV fairly nicely, but I'm using a GeForce 9600GT because it was cheap at the time and I haven't been able to afford a higher generation GPU.

    However, all that said, I still believe FFXIV should be bumped up to Directx10. Maybe not right now, but maybe a couple of years down the road when Directx10/11 are most accessible to people.
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    Last edited by Kailok; 06-20-2011 at 04:21 AM.

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    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    While I agree... DirectX is the way to go... The PS3's PSGL is in fact based on older OpenGL API's....
    Of which SE actually has tons of experience
    Regardless though, you're right, the shaders and textures in this game would definitely benefit from DX10/11

    To put in layman's terms for anyone who isn't a nerd like us...

    A large part of the games graphics are running on the CPU and aren't even optimized to run multi-threaded very well...
    DX10 and to an even further extent 11 just take certain 3d rendering jobs and task them to more efficient places by utilizing the GPU and multi cores better
    >.> THEN WTF SE? my computer runs Crysis 2 flawlessly on max settings and i just know that if FFXIV supported dx10/11 it too would run alot better....

    there is proof in several places in this thread that your lying through your teeth SE, do you really think its smart to lie about the functions of a console/computer to computer nerds? you just had a handful of proffessionals tell you your either incompetent or just plain lying all in one thread. so sad...
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

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    Sometimes I wonder if Tanaka is still in charge and using Yoshida as a sock puppet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if Tanaka is still in charge and using Yoshida as a sock puppet.
    It could happen. It's not like we're knockin' on the door or anything. Though, I'd like to think Yoshida really is in charge lol
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    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailok View Post
    It could happen. It's not like we're knockin' on the door or anything. Though, I'd like to think Yoshida really is in charge lol
    Tanaka or Koumoto although I admire them for their previous works in SE in FFXIV what I couldn't stand for these two were during the JP game magazine interview they made it sound like FFXIV is sooooooooooooooo great and everything was planned out really well.. but ended up with crap we're in now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravou View Post
    Yeah, that's an ok response, SE.

    But, here is what you should have said...

    "Having chosen DirectX 9 as FFXIV's base API, we realize the PC version of FFXIV suffers from unoptimized performance-issues and we fully intend to fix these problem. We also understand that our player-base deserves only the best in both game optimization and visual fidelity; therefore, plans are being drawn up to modernize the game for support of all current versions of DirectX. Due to budgetary and staffing constraints, we will first be focusing on fixing FFXIV's core mechanics and game-play issues. Once these adjustments are implemented and the game is launched for the PS3 (assuming a successful launch and we all keep our jobs) we will then begin work, alongside standard content additions and future expansions, to fully optimize the game for DirectX 9, 10, and 11. These updates will be done to showcase FFXIV as a flagship product from SE, and to provide our customers with the best in compatibility, optimization, performance increases, and forward-thinking advancements; as well as implementing improvements to graphical-quality on more modern APIs. As a would-be leader in the MMO genre we, FFXIV's staff and SE as a company, plan to keep a steady eye fixed on future hardware and software developments, such as next-generation consoles and unreleased APIs (DirectX 12 and beyond) so as to one day add support for these future technologies to FFXIV. These future updates (as they are implemented) will ensure the continued success, growth, and longevity of the FFXIV world and the continued enjoyment for all those who inhabit it. We thank you for your support."

    Gosh, that would have been refreshing to read.
    That would have beem alot better for them to say, it works well from a PR point of view, and unlike Bayohne's post (as much as we all love Bayohne) it tells us they will constantly look into it for the life time of the game.

    I think if we get another players poll there should be some questions "do you have a Dx10/11 compatible graphics card" and "which OS are you running", this would give SE all the information they need, if the majority of players are on XP then they could hold back for a bit on a Dx upgrade, if more people are on vista/7 with a Dx10/11 card then they could add a Dx10/11 option to ffxiv config after the update for the people that can use it. as for the XP users they just need to get with the times (btw dont start on compatibility, xp mode ftw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravou View Post

    Gosh, that would have been refreshing to read.
    I agree. It would also have meant a major PR coup for Square Enix. But they missed their chance!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailok View Post
    It could happen. It's not like we're knockin' on the door or anything. Though, I'd like to think Yoshida really is in charge lol
    If Yoshida isn't really in charge, I would say it's necessary to kick Tanaka out the door. If he has that much control over the department, why don't we just make him CEO of Square Enix already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvertearRen View Post
    I agree. It would also have meant a major PR coup for Square Enix. But they missed their chance!
    SE: "What's a PR?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvertearRen View Post
    If Yoshida isn't really in charge, I would say it's necessary to kick Tanaka out the door. If he has that much control over the department, why don't we just make him CEO of Square Enix already?
    I gotta respect Tanaka's older games, I really do, but I think he just got caught up in the whole "let's do something different" phase, and rejected most things that have been done before. I like new, I like fresh, but I also like functionality. I don't honestly think he's in charge still. In fact, I kind of hope that he's still there giving advice, with yoshida taking the reigns and making the big decisions. But that's me.
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    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

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