Direct X 10/11 Question - Answer (Translated)

[rainfish]

Part of why FFXI hasn't been able to keep the player retention some other older MMOs have is because the "PS2 limitations" have had a major impact on the ability of the devs to update both the game mechanics and the game engine.

FFXI still has one of the highest MMO playerbases for a subscription based MMO without a chinese release.

[viion]

Just because graphic cards have dx 10/11 support doesn't mean it is popular. That's just retarded.

Very few single player games actually use DX11, and this game is an MMO- a game of a genre that is always going to be behind cutting edge technology. They might have some pressure for supporting DX10, if only it had more of an impact on the graphics as it does now. DX11 has tesselation but not many are using it- thus it's not popular.

Once DX11 finally becomes mainstream for PC games SE might start supporting it, but not before. The game looks fucking gorgeous as-is, and so do single player games like the witcher 2 that run on DX9 still.

Not to mention the current engine should be optimised for DX9 before making it 10 or 11 compatible. Which is what they're doing.

I'm sorry if logic got in the way of your mindless bitching. Go on.

A lot of games use 11, and so many use 10 now.

Why does a game have to wait for other games to begin using it to decide weather it should? All current market cards support 11.

Hell even WoW has dx11 support...

[Betelgeuzah]

A lot of games use 11, and so many use 10 now.

Why does a game have to wait for other games to begin using it to decide weather it should? All current market cards support 11.

Hell even WoW has dx11 support...

Because it blows most games that use DX11 out of the water as-is. The fact is DX11 is not mainstream, and DX10 is pretty lackluster compared to 11, so what Bayohne said is valid. Great looking DX9 > shitty DX11. SE has no pressure at this point, hence they won't need to start supporting it. Companies won't do anything just for the sake of it being available. DX11 is not going to fix the aesthetic shortcomings of the game, and nobody is foolish enough to say this game doesn't look gorgeous for an MMO already. There is not enough value in the feature to spend resources on it as things stand. One day there might be, at which point the support will come, as Bayohne implied.

Now, go on with your herpin' derpin'.

[Soukyuu]

Because the next Playstation Generation will probably support DirectX 11.

And run on Windows. NOT.

Get it straight, guys.

DirectX version is not relevant to PS3 in any way because it simply does NOT use windows as it's OS. DirectX is a Microsoft API for Windows nothing else.

SE, your statement is either badly worded (implying you don't care about the PC version) or your devs are really incompetent OR it is just a bad excuse. Neither of those possibilities makes you look good.

Clarifying: I'm not particularly pissed about the answer itself, only about the reasoning behind it.

[Wevlum]

When taking into consideration the performance of the PlayStation 3 version

The same PS3 version Amazon has given a 2020 pre-order release date for?
Sorry, couldn't resist.

Anywho, if this does lower the strain on my poor PC (especially when moving quickly through towns) then I hope they reconsider. My PC is about a year old with decent specification but when I'm traveling through parts of Limsa I'm scared it's going to eject itself and no amount of option tweaking seems to help... which was disappointing after about an hour of try setting, log in, le fail, log out, try another setting, repeat x10. Might be nice is some of the options weren't all or nothing too but settings (and lack of decent ingame settings menu) are another rant!

[STEAMSHEEP]

10000years ago ---------------- Yr2011 -----------------Yr2014(2009+5yrs game plan by SE)
↑ We
SE were here.....

[BlackomegaKingofwaffles]

10000years ago ---------------- Yr2011 -----------------Yr2014(2009+5yrs game plan by SE)
↑ We
SE were here.....

What is this I don't even

[Bethor]

While I'm a little bit dissapointed about that dev comment but on the other hand I'm not really surprised. At the moment the game is looking really nice, it's only lacking in a lot of things. If they optimize the engine as a whole that should do the trick already. Upgrading everything to DX10/11 would suck up too much time as it is already. When do you want a playable game? 2020? :P
When the time has come they will upgrade everything, just be calm. At the moment they really have to fix and implement a lot of stuff and it's really a lot of stuff. It's just sad, that they didn't consider this before the launch, but that's another chapter.

We can only sit, wait and watch at the moment, until it's slowly getting better. Month for month, bit by bit. The game has a lot of potential and I'm also a little bit impatient but only because I wanna have the same fun and good times as I had in FF11. A little bit eager as to say.

And I think SE can't really admit that they have created some bollocks game. They will keep advancing and fixing/adding stuff. If they say, "I'm sorry we're killing the game because it costs too much" now, a lot of people will COMPLETLY lose faith in SE, for now and the future. They will lose a lot of players. Well at least I think that. As for me I'd be totally dissapointed and really reconsider buying an SE game ever again.

Let's wait for the 1-year annivesary and see what they've done within 1 year :P Just be patient folks, the game will hopefully arise.

P.S.: Gimme my ferking Blue Mage back already =X Pwetty, pwease? ;_;

[Wevlum]

What is this I don't even

I *think* STEAMSHEEP is saying that the current state of FFXIV is 10,000 years ago and it's a timeline.

[Anty]

PS3 does not utilize DirectX, so that is not a hinderance for the development for the PC.

Given a proper implementation of dynamic lighting and shadows using DX10 or 11 features would add some much needed atmosphere to the game world.

other dx 9 games offer amazing lighting as well if done right. I wouldnt mind dx9 if it was an amazing engine and brought to the max.

the pix cant really show how the game feels but:

http://www.outpost.be/website/images...s/witcher2.jpg

http://ui03.gamespot.com/2498/3356800x600_2.jpg

http://l.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/eu...s-of-kings.jpg

etc. etc. the lighting is awesome, we have a game that looks dx11ish in many aspects and the mood/lighting is just great.

developers should know dx9 by now and get the best out of it... ffxiv feels like its their first try with dx9