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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    If they said they were going DX10 that would upset me tbh. Optimize the game for the current direct X before aiming higher.
    The Game is made of the engine... they are not separate....
    An engine just provides you with basic common functions that all games need...
    3D rendering, 2D rendering, Sound, Animation, Networking....

    Without game engines each game would need to be designed from the ground up...
    with engines, that gives Devs a base to start with....
    You can't optimize a game before the engine for they are one in the same
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  2. #122
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    Even Cabal has capes lol and is dx9, think Aion does too, cant remember.
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    If they wanted capes, I have two words for you:

    HAVOK PHYSICS.

    Seriously, Square Enix, the technology is out there - use it, implement it. Don't just run away from it because it's western. USE IT IN YOUR F*CKING JAPANESE PRODUCT.

    For god's sake the more this thread gets discussed, the more I realize how Square Enix really skimped on their game engine programming and development.

    I mean, what. Wasn't there a "flowing cape" in FF13 in Lightning's outfit? Granted, that was a smaller cape, but it still got animated with physics, right?

    I get the feeling our developers in Japan are just coming up with unprofessional excuses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutriss View Post
    That's the thing that baffles me about this the most. If it's that important...because they're going to use Crystal Tools for years, because they want the long-term income stream from XIV...why aren't they staffing the project?

    Deus Ex ships in just over a month, that project uses DX11 and the Crystal Dynamics engine. If anyone can help them get this back on track, Eidos Montreal can.
    You reading this thread, Square Enix? Hop to it. Start a "Foreign Exchange" program with your western studios so your japanese programmers, designers, and artists can learn what it means to be a game developer in the next game generation - not the last game generation.

    Right now I get the feeling Square Enix is an old man who's lost his hearing, and we have to f*ckin' yell to get him to hear us at all.

    (Lacking common industry sense doesn't help either.)
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    Last edited by SilvertearRen; 06-19-2011 at 04:19 AM.

  5. #125
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    If they did add DX10/D11 wont that mean we need about setup of 4 video cards? Seeing how even people with 2 are having issue with this game. I think if they fix the core system i think anyone could play this game even dx11 but sadly SE does not want to add.

    In 3years when this game look bad SE would just make a update DX10 and the game would look awesome again. 2-3years later DX11 and once again the game would be better so i think this is the mind set they looking into when it come with dx10/11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    If they did add DX10/D11 wont that mean we need about setup of 4 video cards?
    No, not in anyway what so ever, Infact it'd probably help the game run for machines with better cards. They could make it dx11 now and not change a thing, be pointless. One of the main changes would probably be water because atm its fugly fake and has no particles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    If they did add DX10/D11 wont that mean we need about setup of 4 video cards? Seeing how even people with 2 are having issue with this game. I think if they fix the core system i think anyone could play this game even dx11 but sadly SE does not want to add.

    In 3years when this game look bad SE would just make a update DX10 and the game would look awesome again. 2-3years later DX11 and once again the game would be better so i think this is the mind set they looking into when it come with dx10/11.
    DirectX 11 doesn't mean "you need more powaa!"....it just means "you need more compatibility". AKA, any card with DX11 support is bound to be better than a Radeon 4870.
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    DX10/11 would actually make the game perform better if SE took advantage of DX10/11 multi-processor support and better multi-threading.
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    gotta be some of the dumbest shit i have ever heard i just got brain-farked.


    i am referring to the Mod post about 10/11 direct x
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  10. #130
    Don't listen to any of them, go with opengl it's universal and much better, only miscrosoft xbox uses dx. I'm sure the ignorant masses love their bluescreens but if you want quality opengl is the way to go.
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