Warrior Myth Pants what in the world!?

[Bloodb]

Why do warrior myth pants have 10 less stats than valor and allagan?? Here's a combined screenshot of all 3

[Kitru]

Why do warrior myth pants have 10 less stats than valor and allagan??

Determination consumes more itemization equivalence than any of the other secondary stats. If you look at any two items of equal level, one of which has determination and the other which has none, the one with determination will end up with lower explicit stats. In effect, determination is valued at roughly 50% higher cost, by the devs, than the other secondary stats, so it will only show up in roughly 2/3rds the amount of the others.

[Thig]

Determination has diferent weight than other secondary stats.

[Bloodb]

So that makes determination 33% better than Parry and Crit as a stat? I've always considered parry/accuracy/str/vit waaay better than determination. But then again strength and vitality are main stats and those are equal across the board for the three items

[Kal-El]

So that makes determination 33% better than Parry and Crit as a stat?

It doesn't make the stat better. Just means 1 point of determination has more effect than 1 point of parry or crit. Just the way their algorithms are set.

BAD EXAMPLE - You buy concentrated diluting juice and double strength concentrated juice. You use less of the double strength because, well it's double strength. Does this make it taste any better? No. You just need less of it to make a drink.

[-d-ky]

det affects the range of the amount of healing you receive and damage you deal, so, obviously, it has higher priority, imo. ( not sure if it does contribute mitigation bonus tho. )

[Maku]

det affects the range of the amount of healing you receive and damage you deal, so, obviously, it has higher priority, imo. ( not sure if it does contribute mitigation bonus tho. )

Wrong. Determination has nothing to do with the amount of healing received. It only affects the amount we healers can dish out.

[-d-ky]

Wrong. Determination has nothing to do with the amount of healing received. It only affects the amount we healers can dish out.

hmmm, i was told by one of my healer friends, will verify it that whether it's true

[Thaliss]

hmmm, i was told by one of my healer friends, will verify it that whether it's true

Heal a lvl 1 naked char then heal a lvl 50 fully geared you will see no difference

It is the wording in english that's misleading.

[Kitru]

It is the wording in english that's misleading.

This. I seriously have to wonder why people seem to think that Determination is or ever *was* a stat that increased healing received. Even if the description is misleading, increasing healing received but not outgoing would make it basically worthless for healers, who have it on a *huge* amount of their gear. You'd also have to ask yourself why, if it increases both outgoing magic and physical damage, it arbitrarily leaves out outgoing healing?

It's gotten to the point where, when someone says that Determination increases healing received, I have to wonder if they're capable of even basic critical thought because it just doesn't make any sense.