Getting bullied out of your own party sure is fun

[Goodberry]

All this talking about Internet, anonymity etc. Like people weren't able to be total jerks in real life. :P

I don't know how you fare with people you know in your everyday life. Sincerely, my Internet experiences are no worse than RL ones.

Occasionally I have bad experiences in games etc. Other times I wonder at other people's patience.

[Katiyana]

It's how you use the tool, or do you seriously think the DBs would suddenly become nice people if there were no parsers?

Hm.. .no I suppose not... but--parties wouldn't kick you for doing 209 when you could be doing 210. Or whatever the high number for damage is.

[casker]

When stuff like that happens, you gotta stand up for yourself. Point out that that awful bard kept dying, and just tell it like you saw it: he was butthurt because he wanted exclusive rights to a drop. There isn't exactly a dearth of bards so a crappy one with no manners can be replaced.

Bards have the easiest time surviving. Just saying.

[Jilse]

Why has the OF turned into a "someone was mean to me let me post my story so you can all feel bad for me" type of place?

If the bard had a bad attitude you should have left. That's it.

Left HIS party? Thats the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Well, at least so far today, and the day is 12 min old, but anyways....

Seriously, you make party, a player demands a certian loot or he is leaving, and you are suppose to leave? How does that work? I would have shrugged it off personally, because you cannot leave the party after the drop, and until then, you dont know what will drop. Besides, someone saying that if anyone else needs on his gear he is leaving is crap, because you really cannot stop anyone from doing so.

[Jilse]

I hate to read topics like this because I hate that this happens. It's true that the anonymity of the internet plays a role but there's still a person typing/saying it and they really need to take a breath and realize what they're doing. And, bluntly put, I think anyone who goes into these Extreme fights (and well, Titan HM) expecting perfection without doing them with people you know and trust is naive, and such arrogance is unwarranted. .

Basically MMO's are populated by sociopaths with a shut-in mentality.

[Keith_Dragoon]

OP I've never crossed paths with you in-game yet but quitting isn't the answer. I've run into my share of people like that and I'll remove them as quickly as they joined. That guy had no right to demand anything unless he intended to solo the fight. Last I checked those trials were a TEAM thing so you were right to say something especially being the leader of the party.

As far as the bullying goes I was not there so can't confirm the truth in your words but if it is true I have no doubts he fabricated info to channel the group's frustration at you. I may not be in your FC but this lala has your back!

[AdvancedWind]

im waiting till more people learn the fights before i bother with the EX fight, i catch on fast but other take alot of fails before they win.

Truth be told, PUG party quality has already started to decline, after "peaking" 1-2 weeks ago, IMO. The people who can beat the EX fights and were PUGing them earlier either

A - already got everything they wanted at this point, so they're not pugging unless it's to help a friend in a PUG.
B - found some group during their pugs and is not pugging that much anymore
C - only create and join "clears only" party.

Sure, there's always a stream of good new players attempting the content, but right now, I fell it's kinda swallowed by the mountains of "farming parties" that don't farm, "learning parties" that kick people over the smallest mistakes, and "weekly clear" parties that won't allow newcomers to join. This should get even worse once people get all 8 weapons.

My honest opnion is that it's best to start now if you're planning to PUG, as it's only going downhill.

[AdvancedWind]

Why has the OF turned into a "someone was mean to me let me post my story so you can all feel bad for me" type of place?

If the bard had a bad attitude you should have left. That's it.

Actually, he should have been kicked on the spot right when he started making demands before the runs even started, since OP was the pt leader.

[Miiu]

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While there is truth to what you say. I feel like with the addition of PF the quality of DF parties declined. Not in terms of not being able to finish certain encounters but in terms of tolerance and impatience. The farm/clears/no beginner parties were there already but only in terms of shouts which isn't quite as visual as seeing them all written down in a list.
What happened to the op is nowhere near okay and from personal experience I can only say those people aren't the norm at least on Sargatanas but I don't think we have some kind of exclusive contract with nice people who are just as much fed up with jerks like you are.

[AdvancedWind]

-.

I will be honest, I have no issues with parties that want to down content and don't accept newcomers / kick weaker links, as long as it is clearly labeled and is done in a non abusive way. I create those parties as well.

What I meant to say with my post is that there were more "newcomers allowed" parties that actually tried for more than 3 wipes 1-2 weeks ago, and that the quality of players itself was better. Right now it's almost exclusively "have 99% dodge rate or get kicked" parties that are up on PF, the number of actual "patient" learning parties is getting lower and lower.

Which is why I said that it might not be a good idea to wait to pug ex primals.