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    Kitru Kitera
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    There is pretty much zero room for customization here. If you want to be good at the job you're playing, you have to do what everyone else does, collect the same gear, use the same rotations and cross skills, it's really dull...
    Because it's not like you don't already do that with builds in every other MMO out there. The devs got rid of talent trees and whatnot because they don't actually represent real choices. All they do is create the illusion of it, and, after a month or so when the theorycrafters have done the math/analysis, there becomes a single optimal that everyone starts using (and anyone that doesn't do it because they feel like being different just ends up hurting themselves; anyone that's new and doesn't feel like doing the research just ends up performing terribly).

    The current system works because it's just like every other system out there only without the pretense. You've got a small amount of customizability that has a small impact on total performance, but, overall, you're just like everyone else.
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    Diezel Lon'dik
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    Because it's not like you don't already do that with builds in every other MMO out there. The devs got rid of talent trees and whatnot because they don't actually represent real choices. All they do is create the illusion of it
    The illusion of choice can go a long way for some people. A lot of people like to believe they have options, and might even refuse to believe there'a a cookie cutter format for all classes. Shoot, they could truly have the option. There have been many games where they said "This is how youre supposed to use this class" then somebody branches out.. discovers an entirely new, maybe even more efficient way to use the class.
    Not completely sure, but i think thats what happened with Ninja in FFXI? I did not play FFXI so its possible im wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDiezel View Post
    The illusion of choice can go a long way for some people. A lot of people like to believe they have options, and might even refuse to believe there'a a cookie cutter format for all classes. Shoot, they could truly have the option. There have been many games where they said "This is how youre supposed to use this class" then somebody branches out.. discovers an entirely new, maybe even more efficient way to use the class.
    Not completely sure, but i think thats what happened with Ninja in FFXI? I did not play FFXI so its possible im wrong.
    SE developed NIN as a DPS, and SAM as a tank. So there's that.

    Then there's the whole series of BRD and DRK tanking that wasn't intended, and before the mazurka hate nerf, RDM/BRD chainspell mazurka tanking was about the silliest thing ever thought of for xi.
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