Bunny Hopping, Premades, End of Pvp.

[Shin_Fayte]

Lol. So........ It was really great to see them hot fixing the bunny hop, kinda late. Since after what Yoshi p said it made matters worst...BUT GUESS WHAT.

They figured out how to get around that hot fix. I'm not going to go into detail since people would just take advantage of it. But really. I wish they would just temporary turn off jumping in pvp until they figure out what to do.

Another Juicy bit. Premades. This is a problem I started seeing recently. They would make a 3man premade and make the forth one solo DF.

[Shin_Fayte]

But when the 4th member enters into the wrong team. The 4th member would then sabotage them by breaking their sleeps or just not contribute at all giving his/her main team a better chance at winning.

I know this because the names I looked up were from the same server and FC. I will not reveal the names. I'm pretty sure they know who they are if they're reading this. I already reported them for abusing this. And I suggest anyone who witness this to report them as well.

Honestly. Pvp is pretty much dead. It had so much potential in the beginning. They were late on hot fixing the bunnyhop. Only to have people figure a way around that. We already know it would be a long time before they hotfix anything else.

[LongNu]

You forgot Bots and Summoners. I'm not sure which one placed more disinterest in the mode for me. Hard to decide.

[Ryuko]

You forgot Bots and Summoners. I'm not sure which one placed more disinterest in the mode for me. Hard to decide.

Hey now. I know SMN is a little OP right now (even I will admit this), but we should not be put in the same sentence with botters. ;;

[Megido]

Too many abusers/botters/facerollers in the game. PvP playerbase here cares only about getting a high rank, in other words grinding for gear, over any sort of competition. So that they can then use stronger gear than others leading to once again less competition and less people sticking around. Like mindless electricity they go the path of least resistance, where nothing else matters but their own destination. Except now nobody plays anymore and you're sitting in queue for 10 minutes with your amazing r30 gear waiting for yet another dbl smn match.

As a long time pvper the pvp here sucks, and as a newcomer at pvp games/matches im pretty sure that it sucks as well.

[LongNu]

As a long time pvper the pvp here sucks, and as a newcomer at pvp games/matches im pretty sure that it sucks as well.

As a long time pvper I tend to adapt to whatever pvp I can find, but the ones I feel sorry for the most are the newbies. It couldn't be fun.

[Shin_Fayte]

Except now nobody plays anymore and you're sitting in queue for 10 minutes

Lol. 10 mins? I feel like it's much more then that. But your exactly right. People doing anything to get to rank 30. Taking advantage of anything to win. It sucks. I sit there and think. What about everyone else who actually wants to pvp. The ones who actually want to have a challenge and test their own skills.

Everyone is quitting and giving up. There are still a few I know that are determined to grind to rank 30 without using the exploits. Including myself. But sooner or later we would just burn ourselves out. I don't know why I abuse myself and keep doing it. I think I still hold onto that TINY hope. That maybe....maybe they would fix it. or make PVP worth it. Maybe throw some mini pvp games or capture the flag. Anything that would pull people back into this.

[Shin_Fayte]

I'm tired of people insulting each other. I want everyone to just not say anything and let their skill do the talking. But with all these glitches and abuses in the game. You can't exactly show them anything. It's funny how it's always the people abusing those exploits that are trash talking.

Yea I know we will always have those kind of people in any mmo you go. But saying that. When PVP is really fun and exciting to play. There will always be more people outweighing them. Someday, when SE gets their act together and really put effort into pvp. Like really pay attention to these problems. We will start to see a growth of skilled pvpers. The ones where even if you lose to them. It's the thrill to meet them again and trying to defeat them with growing knowledge.

[Shin_Fayte]

Hey now. I know SMN is a little OP right now (even I will admit this), but we should not be put in the same sentence with botters. ;;

Hey Ryuko. I will say this. Casters are mainly the ones abusing the glitches. And yes I will admit as well SMN can be very OP. But saying that. I have also witnessed and fought a handful of SMN who didn't bunny hop and actually tried to be hold back to make a more fair fight. I respect these people. They really want to test their skills. And it shows.

[bbt]

Megido has it right.

3's premades are a cancer - every team, without exception. These people don't care about the competition or how they impact the community, they only care about their points and guaranteed 90%+ win rates versus uncoordinated pubs. Human nature, I guess.

Maybe throw some mini pvp games or capture the flag. Anything that would pull people back into this.

Don't think we'll see change until 2.2 which is still months away.

Really looking forward to see how they progress this system in future updates, though. I feel 8-man will be designed with CTF, map domination and other objective-style game modes in mind.