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  1. #11
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    Eremes's Avatar
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    Eremes Beoulve
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    Ultros
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tallly View Post
    A) Level 50 players with Relic +1 weaps or even Zenith weapons are queueing in these brackets. Even with level sync, they are so overpowered that it unbalances the playing field.
    1. As others have pointed out, lvl 50 players are stat capped. If a decked out lvl 3X player queue for lvl 30 PvP, they'll have the same stats as a lvl 50 because they're both capped
    2. If someone is more geared that you are, why shouldn't they be doing more damage/survive longer?
    3. What's stopping you from getting geared to compete with the lvl 50's?
    4. If the group you got queued up against are lvl 3X players with gear good enough to hit the stats cap, will you be making the same complaint right now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Tallly View Post
    B) Said players above are often queueing with FC mates to form premades of mixed 50s and fairly well coordinated non 50s. Result is faceroll against other team. Extremely unbalanced.
    1. If other team is more coordinated, why is it so wrong for them to win?
    2. What's stopping you from going in with friends and be more coordinated?
    3. This is like using DF for titan HM and hoping to down him consistently
    Quote Originally Posted by Tallly View Post
    Level 50 has a premade bracket, so why doesn't 30s and 40s?
    1. Not enough people PvP to have so many brackets, queues will take forever
    2. They simply do not care as much for 30's and 40's because it is not the meta. I don't know about you but if you give me a dev and let me fix anything about PvP, 30's and 40's will be the last on my list.
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  2. #12
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    Gantz Nostromo
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I just meant that with top tier gear they are able to reach the maxed stat cap for the level 30/40 bracket, calling them OP/unbalance is a joke, have you observed your stats in 50s pvp and in 30/40s pvp? lvl 30s - 40s just need to gear up till they reach the cap, its either they level up to 50 before playing in that field or gather PVE gears in their level bracket. The only thing you are hating here is that others are able to make a Premade rather just solo queue, the other part is that they might have all the necessary XSkills needed to make them hit harder, this just means that those level 50s were around for a long time since the game was released, you just need to make preparations in order to PVP well, this includes getting all the xskills necessary, as well as food buff, potions that may increase your damage output too.
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    Last edited by Gantzdx09; 01-17-2014 at 06:21 AM.

  3. #13
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    Gantz Nostromo
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    If you have issues concerning "Premades" then queue in with your friends as well, the arena is 4 vs 4, not 1 on 1, try your best to make a premade (invite friends or join pvp fc/ls) if you're always losing solo queues. Expect to be facerolled by premades, even if they are not composed/mixed 50s and below. Premades are expected to be well coordinated as well as experienced solo queuers(experienced meaning have a knowledge of what is going on inside the arena when it begins and knows how to react to it).

    Instead of ranting here, why dont you try to discover a solution about this pvp problem of yours, then share that with the pvp community, that way it is more *constructive*.
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    Last edited by Gantzdx09; 01-17-2014 at 06:18 AM.

  4. #14
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    Quackley's Avatar
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    Draggy Beet
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    Leviathan
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Premade vs randoms is silly, zzz

    Also I find it hilarious that 30-40 queues are so dead that it's laughably easy to get 4 people into the same game, 20+ games in a row. :l
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    Last edited by Quackley; 01-17-2014 at 06:43 AM.

  5. #15
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    Bondosu's Avatar
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    Bond Osuu
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I do more damage in my brayflox set than pvp set in lower brackets lol
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  6. #16
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    Taneshima Popura
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    Carbuncle
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    Marauder Lv 50
    @ Tallly

    Perhaps you need to be more perceptive than ignorant. All gears which require an equip level beyond the PvP Bracket cap will be Sync'ed down to the PvP LvL. Aka iLvl 90 (Req 50) --> Ilvl 40 strength in PvP 40 Bracket. And you only benefit from 1 of the Offstat (I haven't gone into detail on how the Sync system picks which stat as priority)

    And I will repeat myself. As I have done a LOT of 40 bracket PvP with my BLM before finally deciding my Dire-to-be-and-is-currently will be BLM. I notice even with Direwolf now I was no where close to being as strong as I was when I was in Stone Vigil + Dzemael gear due to Sync. Contrary to what you might believe, every piece you wear above the PvP bracket puts you in a fair play situation, equiping anything lower than the bracket puts you in a disadvantage, and wearing anything which has an iLvl above the Bracket but still same or below equip level of the PvP bracket puts you in an advantage.

    In fact if your gear is below the equip bracket cap it will benefit from the full double or triple sub-stat. Some even claimed that equipping lower equip level HQ craft gear and penta-meld it will make you a beast but personally I have not the time to test that part out.
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  7. #17
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    Gantz Nostromo
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Great points here by Taneshima, this just proves that others have than *done* more PVP than you Tallly, pointing these differences out means that they've been doing pvp since 2.1 patch release thus the experience and knowledge in explaining the points you are missing out, that's why i would also suggest for you to PVP more rather than post things you can not currently comprehend, play pvp more
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  8. #18
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    Y'zamza Sazhi
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    Mateus
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    I play 30 and 40, lvl 50 has no sense until they split it by ilvl. Mix people with ilvl 50 and 90 is stupid.
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