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    Adraestea Iugis
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    Has anyone else ever gotten the same weapon from Twintania 5 out of 7 times?

    So far our group got 5 monk weapons, 1 whm, 1 drg. We don't run a drg, so basically only 2 out of 8 steady raiders even have coil weapon that they can use towards future progression/main raid.

    Okay I understand if it's like 3 of the same weapon dropping, but like 5/7 is a bit ridiculous. So like, drop rate for monk weapon is either exceedingly high or somehow 0.00169%? (1/9 ^ 5)

    Is anyone else experiencing this problem? It's really causing our raiders to not even feel motivated to bother with Coil anymore since we always get the same garbage from turn 1-4 when there's still many pieces that never dropped, like tank belt, tank earrings, tank neck, healing chest (It's been close to 4 month now and they've never dropped even once).
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    Indira Cliodhna
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    makes you grind and make its take longer to get what you need and thats the ancient design of gear drops.
    people say it perfect though or "go back to wow.".
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    Asakura Ny'en
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    So? I've only seen a total of 4 Healer drops (and got two.. the earrings, and belt which is kinda useless..). Of which 3 are useless for me, as WHM. And that since mid-October.

    It's just bad luck. Keep trying, you'll get something sometime.

    EDIT: Just be glad you have overall more Healer drops than our FCs statics do. We get next to none, ever. You could have it a lot worse :/
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    Last edited by Asakura93; 01-14-2014 at 12:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indira View Post
    makes you grind and make its take longer to get what you need and thats the ancient design of gear drops.
    people say it perfect though or "go back to wow.".
    I'm asking out of curiousity since the odds are extremely low.

    Please note that I already mentioned that I do understand if the same weapon drops like, 3-4 times out of 7. 5/7 is a bit ridiculous.

    I never enjoyed how easy things were to get from WoW after Wrath. I preferred Vanilla and BC. So please don't make random comments that doesn't help answer my question. Thanks.


    And I got my WHM weapon, I could stop raiding Coil if I wanted to, but I'm asking as I feel that it's unfair to my group.
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    Ashira Lockhart
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    Those odds are low, but they're not lottery winning low or anything. Stranger things have indeed happened; you've just had a run of bad luck. For example, I once had a 95% Gathering chance fail four times in a row. I literally facepalmed and actually laughed.

    Another one would be this; I run Coil as a SCH and have done since we started back in September, though we don't have any Monks and I'm the only one who plays Monk at level 50, so any Monk items that drop are mine by default. We've run Coil every week since then and all I have to show for my Monk are the Allagan Trousers.

    We also have a Bard that's been waiting on the Allagan Chest drop for a few months with nobody to compete with. It's just the way things go. You are however fortunate that you have a team that has Twintania on farm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adraestea View Post
    I'm asking out of curiousity since the odds are extremely low.

    Please note that I already mentioned that I do understand if the same weapon drops like, 3-4 times out of 7. 5/7 is a bit ridiculous.

    I never enjoyed how easy things were to get from WoW after Wrath. I preferred Vanilla and BC. So please don't make random comments that doesn't help answer my question. Thanks.


    And I got my WHM weapon, I could stop raiding Coil if I wanted to, but I'm asking as I feel that it's unfair to my group.
    i did answer your question, to make you pay your sub as long as possible. maybe you should stop asking obvious.
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Looks like everyone in your static needs to start leveling monks.

    On absurd RNG accidents, I've had the caster boots drop from T2 7 times.
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    Tele Nariel
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    the chance that you've seen it 5 times in 7 is very low.
    1/9^5 * 8/9^2

    the chance that you will see it 6 times in 8 assuming you've already seen it 5 times in 7 is just 1/9 however.

    You got unlucky statistics is not against you.
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    Holo Wisewolf
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    I think T5 even though haven't beaten it yet, should have dropped tokens and take 5 tokens to buy a weapon because RNG is certainly not RNG.
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    Aizu Varenshutain
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    Loot tables are just messed up in coil in general. SE tried to fix it with a maintenance sometime ago...yeah it didn't do anything anyhow. Kind of sucks your luck turned out that way. =<
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