Tanks Who Constantly Queue and Then Withdraw Trying to Get in Progress Instances

[DragonSlayer45]

With drawing does not effect other people.

I'm sorry, but what? Withdrawing does indeed affect other people. You think those other 3/7/23 people are not affected when you withdraw? Switch your class to a DPS and see how it feels to wait an extra 5-10 minutes (and maybe even more) before you can enter the Crystal Tower from the moment the first confirmation popped.

[Keoeson]

If i dont queue..
23/24 players in queue looking for a tank...
23/24 players in queue STILL looking for a tank.

as you can see the situation of the 23/24 players DOESN't change my actions play no part on your wait time.

It's not that simple. There's more than one instance, so in the time you withdraw the server already prepares another instance and once you've withdrawn 23 players are queued after these players queued in these other instances. If you're lucky you get into one these instances (most likely heals and tanks), the rest (most likely dps) has to wait for another full party yet again.
Withdrawing multiple times must be punished!

[Thaliss]

I don't blame tanks, anyone can withdraw . Tanks get it easier that's all

The withdrawing is done by full groups too that want to play together.
Or even people solo queueing but looking to get in instance with friends for commendations or other reasons.

[Jilse]

there is queue already in progress for a reason.... Why ban someone for using the feature?? Say i only have 30min before i have to get off. Typically i can find an already in progress 2/4 with in 5min of queueing which typically takes about 15min to finish from that point. Woot just saved me some time got to fight the bosses that drop the pieces i need and i helped another group out by filling a role they where missing!!! really ban or punish someone for using a filter and helping other parties out?

Can we at least ban them for spamming the feature? You know, if it is the same tank who does it 10+ times in a row, with 0 break, then do something. Because as a tank, you should know that if you decline and re-enter q, you are most likely going to get that same fresh group.

[ArtEmisPalmecia]

Duty Finder should not tell the person how far along the in-progress group is. Either you join the in-progress group, or not.

The above wouldn't eliminate the issue, but seems it would put a dent into it.

[Mayin]

They really need to start banning them. I main a PLD and it sickens me when this crap happens if I'm on another job. It's incredibly rude and needs to be punished.

My suggestion is this: Allow two withdraws from queue. On the third strike, the person withdrawing takes a 30 minute penalty. It then also flags the system that said person has received the withdrawing penalty. Once that person receives 3 flags, they are then banned for a shortish period of time (say 3 days). Then it will progressively get longer.

Keep in mind, I'm talking about withdrawing from the queue, not once you've entered a dungeon (which there's already a penalty for). If you've ever had it happen where your queue pops over and over for short periods, it's a Tank constantly queuing and withdrawing trying to get an in-progress dungeon so they can more quickly get their Myth tokens.

This would be impossible to implement and is a silly suggestion.

[DragonSlayer45]

I have a better idea: How about they make "Join in Progress" actually work as intended? Make it so it is ONLY set to search for dungeons that are in need of another player. If Tanks need to wait 30 minutes for another Tank to drop in a in progress dungeon so they can join, so be it.

Once you select that button, you should only be searching for an In Progress dungeon, not one that's beginning.

[Welsper59]

I have a better idea: How about they make "Join in Progress" actually work as intended? Make it so it is ONLY set to search for dungeons that are in need of another player. If Tanks need to wait 30 minutes for another Tank to drop in a in progress dungeon so they can join, so be it.

Once you select that button, you should only be searching for an In Progress dungeon, not one that's beginning.

Am I just too good of a person to understand that "Join in Progress" simply means you're okay with potentially being setup into a party that is in-progress? It just baffles me that people actually believe that the option was intended to be exclusive rather than inclusive. In other words, re-queuing for only in-progress dungeon/raid is an abuse of the current system. "Abuse" being a very strong word mind you, but still applicable. Of course, it's not like they'll ban people for it, as it's impossible to prove grief potential/intentions.

[joshsecret]

drives me crazy trying to get into the DF as a DPS class. not only are the times extreme at times, but when you try to do other things (crafting/gathering) in the meantime and the window pops every three seconds over and over again, it does nothing but make me hostage to waiting with little else to do. i think there should be a penalty to continuously withdrawing. i like the 3 strikes you get the 30 minute penalty idea. between this issue and tanks asking to get vote-kicked to re-que... uugh!

[Xenor]

Best solution is to make the queues separate.