Tanks Who Constantly Queue and Then Withdraw Trying to Get in Progress Instances

[Hanabira]

I love how people are saying that its intended that "join in progress" should ONLY allow you to join dungeons in progress. But here is a good question, if everyone could join an in-progress dungeon and not also be in the queue to start from the beginning, then who is going to start fresh dungeons?

[BoomerOU]

yes because several people dropped from the queue.. because they got tired of the guy withdrawing.



withdrawing for dungeon queue looking for a party already inprogress is no less "honest" then looking for a full run. there is an option to look for inprogress runs and there is an option to withdraw using these 2 options are not dishonest...


then sir welcome to life.... if you do not want to wait on a system that is in place that people are using as intended then i'm sorry to tell you that you will never be happy.



Looking for the type of dungeon they are queued for. Its no more being a DB then withdrawing from the queue pop because you want to finish a fate or finish a craft. its the reason there is a withdraw button in the first place.

Perhaps honest was the wrong word to describe it, but my sentiment is the same.

[Cichard]

I will have to agree with some that separating the queues would also be a viable solution. However, it's not a perfect one. There are certainly times where you'd want to search both for a fresh dungeon or in-progress one... either because you don't care or because you'd like to help out others who had a person drop, but wouldn't want to wait for that scenario only.




There exists no "extraordinary circumstance" in which my solution would punish honest players. You have to be quite deliberate to be punished by the system I suggest.

why is it less "honest" to use the two options together. How does "Inprogress dungeon" + "withdraw button" = "not honest" I dont understand that. I'm queueing looking for an inprogress dungoen god forbid i keep waiting for an inprogress dungeon. Im not hurting anyone else. I'm trying to help my self as well as filling a missing role in someone elses group. I'm not being dishonest.

[Doo]

Might as well break CT into separate instances like primals instead of a raid. Problem solved.

[wildgalax]

soo many crying in this thread. SE hasnt done anything about it cause they underestimated how sensitive everyone is. Dw they will fix this after next patch, till then deal with it.

[Kaedan]

why is it less "honest" to use the two options together. How does "Inprogress dungeon" + "withdraw button" = "not honest" I dont understand that. I'm queueing looking for an inprogress dungoen god forbid i keep waiting for an inprogress dungeon. Im not hurting anyone else. I'm trying to help my self as well as filling a missing role in someone elses group. I'm not being dishonest.

I don't think you understand what's being talked about. You're getting two completely different ideas mixed up and confused.

As for constantly withdrawing from queue until you get one in-progress... that is most certainly hurting other players.

[Cichard]

I don't think you understand what's being talked about. You're getting two completely different ideas mixed up and confused.
As for constantly withdrawing from queue until you get one in-progress... that is most certainly hurting other players.

well you said locking out players that are doing this would also hurt "honest players" i dont understand how i'm dishonest because i'm using 2 features as intended.

it does not hurt other players. It does not INFLATE the time they have to wait in any way. If they have a guy withdraw from queue for 30min they would of still had to wait 30min for a different tank to queue other wise they would of gotten a tank inbetween the time the tank that is withdrawing and the time it took the tank that withdrew to requeue. Its not hurting anyone you only THINK it is.

[Tano]

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while I share your pain, I think that it's SE's fault for not allowing an "ONLY party in progress feature". And also for this stupid DF that resets queue everytime 1/24 withraws, having 23 people wait because of 1.
Chould just leave the queue there and add a replacement who is waiting somewhere instead of resetting everything.

[Nica]

withdrawing for dungeon queue looking for a party already inprogress is no less "honest" then looking for a full run. there is an option to look for inprogress runs and there is an option to withdraw using these 2 options are not dishonest...

Nobody say it is, it’s when the option is being abused to the constant detriment and annoyance of a large group of player solely for the convenience of a single one.

then sir welcome to life.... if you do not want to wait on a system that is in place that people are using as intended then i'm sorry to tell you that you will never be happy.

A system working as intended doesn’t mean the devs didn’t miss the obvious loopholes in the system they designed, something not exactly uncommon for SE.

I never said the system wasn’t working correctly, what I’m saying is that it’s a shitty system that needs to be adjusted to take into account of the assholes.

Looking for the type of dungeon they are queued for. Its no more being a DB then withdrawing from the queue pop because you want to finish a fate or finish a craft. its the reason there is a withdraw button in the first place.

Funny, it’s almost as if the word “scale” doesn’t exist in your vocabulary.

it does not hurt other players. It does not INFLATE the time they have to wait in any way

So, how much are you gonna pay me next time one of your type's stunt breaks the DF group because people got sick of your shit?

[Kaedan]

well you said locking out players that are doing this would also hurt "honest players" i dont understand how i'm dishonest because i'm using 2 features as intended.

Huh? No, I said that giving someone an automatic several minute lockout just for pressing the withdraw button once or having the timer run out would be punishing honest players. My solution only punishes those who are deliberately abusing the system.