Tanks Who Constantly Queue and Then Withdraw Trying to Get in Progress Instances

[Lithera]

Yes please ignore the people from the same FC who have people that look exactly the same normally are the same job/class and also dress the same. They're either multiboxing or two people with an alt. only other thing I can think of is friends or family that want to add the creepyness factor to their gaming.
Back on topic going to that guy's screen shot. I have had my screen look just like that and not have the window pop up once so how am I supposed to click this button if the silly thing doesn't pop up in the first place? To those who say if the timer is up post 10-15 seconds it's totally means you're getting in is a bunch of crap. I've had the waiting on that last person and have the timer run out do to whatever in between the multiple the person withdrew so fast the commence window didn't even pop up crap that it starts to become annoying. Heck I've had to wait a bit in a full premade group just for the commence window to pop.

[Kaedan94]

I'm not sure I understand what you're talking about. Are you saying that people are accepting and then withdrawing so fast that you can't click the commence button? Because yeah, that happens. And it's getting really out of hand... >.<

[Killance]

Best solution is to make the queues separate.

This. So much this.

[Grailer]

Why don't you just do what other games do?

DON'T TELL PEOPLE IF THE INSTANCE IS IN PROGRESS OR NOT.

If you check the mark to "allow in-progress groups" in every single game I've ever played, the game does not effin' tell you where the group is. You just zone in, and then the people in the group tell you where they are.

Don't separate the queues, because that'll just make queue times terrible for everyone.

I think they should separate them . It takes forever to get a in progress group , im sick of having to withdraw from ones that aren't in progress .

note: I just got Haukke Manor HM (3/4) it took about 5 minutes of fishing for in progress. A lot of withdrawing from not in progress dungeons .

Also I am sorry for people who get que pop ups from people who aren't looking for not in progress games . That is why I hope they separate the ques for everyones piece of mind.

[Kinseykinz]

I think they should separate them . It takes forever to get a in progress group , im sick of having to withdraw from ones that aren't in progress .

note: I just got Haukke Manor HM (3/4) it took about 5 minutes of fishing for in progress. A lot of withdrawing from not in progress dungeons .

Also I am sorry for people who get que pop ups from people who aren't looking for not in progress games . That is why I hope they separate the ques for everyones piece of mind.

No, you only want separate queues so that you can get in and out quickly. That is NOT what in Progress is for. It is only there to help the stranded. That tank you rep'd, he had to eat a 30 minute time out because he quit... YOU should have to be penalized for your '5 minutes of fishing' too. Haukke Manor HM only takes about 30 mins (or under) with a skilled party. The final boss isn't the dungeon. People who only care to get the final loot/tomes and then get out to do it again are abusing the In-progress feature.

But you know what: If they DO separate the queue, then ironically, BOTH sides will have to wait longer...because I mean, YOU think it's okay to be selfish and only care about grabbing the quick loot/cash at the end, what happens when everyone else thinks the same? Then who's going to do the first 2/3's of the dungeon for you so you can just waltz in and get the easy reward? No one. And if no one enters, then no one can rage-quit. If no one rage-quits, then you can't get an 'in-progress queue'

I'm starting to think that they should just make every mob drop a tome... then people'd actually, I don't know, PLAY the GAME. Not the other players.

But really, they don't need to punish people for spam queuing, they just need to allow you to select like you can now, but make your entrance blind so you don't know what you're getting. Then at least, people like you would have to either clear the dungeon (which takes less than 30 mins many times) or eat a 30 minute penalty.

[Zumi]

they just need to allow you to select like you can now, but make your entrance blind so you don't know what you're getting. Then at least, people like you would have to either clear the dungeon (which takes less than 30 mins many times) or eat a 30 minute penalty.

You do realize if they didn't show a run was in progress and a tank wanted a almost finished one someone would just force dc just to be kicked from the party log back in with no 30 min debuff and try again if they didn't want a fresh group. Then you be on here complaining about tanks that dc at the start of a fresh run.

[Kinseykinz]

If you dc, you get the 30 minute lockout too. I know this because I DC'd in the wolves den and couldn't log back in in time and suffered a 30 minute DF cue penality.

And tanks and healers already DC/abandon at the very beginning of runs...so your point?

I cue almost everyday as a healer/tank 'join party in progress' and get 0/4 as my party and end up at the very beginning of the duty...not a single mob pulled. So your point? People already do this when they use Dungeon Roulette...but at least they are penalized for their behavior.

[Zumi]

If you dc, you get the 30 minute lockout too. I know this because I DC'd in the wolves den and couldn't log back in in time and suffered a 30 minute DF cue penality.

And tanks and healers already DC/abandon at the very beginning of runs...so your point?

I cue almost everyday as a healer/tank 'join party in progress' and get 0/4 as my party and end up at the very beginning of the duty...not a single mob pulled. So your point? People already do this when they use Dungeon Roulette...but at least they are penalized for their behavior.

No you don't I have dc for 5 min because my internet went out, came back and no timer, because I got vote kicked from the group when i was dced so no lockout.

[Kinseykinz]

No you don't I have dc for 5 min because my internet went out, came back and no timer, because I got vote kicked from the group when i was dced so no lockout.

Yeah, but if they DID NOT vote kick you, you'd be locked out. So again....DC away. So you got back in because people kicked you NOT because the game actually let you. If you would have re-logged within 5-10 minutes, you'd also still be stuck in that dungeon. (because the game allows a dc'd player to log back into their duty as long as they haven't been kicked/timed out/duty complete)

But the only way to be sure your 'DC plan' will always work, is to stay logged out for 10 minutes. So still enough of a pain that many will not abuse it. At least, not as many who spam hoping for 2/3 completions now. So you'd sooner or later just say screw it, I'll do the bloody run.

So again, the party has an option:
1. Vote Kick the 'Dc'd' player to get a rep. (that player does not get a penalty but I believe we each can only vote kick someone every couple hours...if you are the 2nd+ tank to join, guess what, you're stuck with us until you clear/quit/rage/AFK/DC....and then wait 10 minutes until autokick)
2. Soldier on and see if they come back (contrary to popular belief, you CAN keep going through a dungeon without a tank esp if just killing trash)
3. Let your 10 minute timer wear out and it auto-kicks you from dungeon. (you officially 'abandoned' your duty and got stuck with 30 min penalty)
4. Wait on you. See if you come back. Believe it or not, some people are nice in this game, and believe that people honestly DC and honestly come back.

[Awake]

It was funny yday for the first time i had some tank withdraw more than 20times in a 3min time window (not exagerating at all)