Tanks Who Constantly Queue and Then Withdraw Trying to Get in Progress Instances

[Traek]

I think the best solution is a Withdraw penalty. Honestly it doesn't affect anyone but the person abusing the system, as it should. Make it so after three withdrawals, said person takes a 10 minute wait. This isn't over punishing, but enough to make someone think before hitting Withdraw that third time. It won't punish someone for an "oh crap" moment, if they had forgot to do something, as well as the poor sob grabbing his drink after waiting 30mins already. This also gives a good time frame for the line to move forward without everyone having to see this pesky problem.

Realistically you can't have a separate queue, as it will have more negative an effect on DF. Tanks will only want to queue for this and it will slow down the process overall. You can argue tanks will wait in line at that point, but so will everyone else trying to form a party, and even longer waits then now.

The other method of *blind entering* is not a good one *in my opinion*. I never liked this in WoW, and you can often times skip a boss you might have either wanted loot or philo tomes from. This also can happen when queuing as a full group keep in mind, and could screw a lot of people (including DD/heals) out of gear.

I'm tired of seeing tanks abuse this, and I am a tank main myself. I truly don't understand how people can be so inconsiderate of the 23 other players they keep pushing down the line. You can't tell me groups aren't missing out on a tank pop while you keep locking them in a queue over and over.

[Angiline]

I think the best solution is a Withdraw penalty. Honestly it doesn't affect anyone but the person abusing the system, as it should. Make it so after three withdrawals, said person takes a 10 minute wait. This isn't over punishing, but enough to make someone think before hitting Withdraw that third time. It won't punish someone for an "oh crap" moment, if they had forgot to do something, as well as the poor sob grabbing his drink after waiting 30mins already. This also gives a good time frame for the line to move forward without everyone having to see this pesky problem.

except no one is abusing anything.... SE hasnt said this practice isnt acceptable. So far as it stands now this is an aproved practiced untill said other wise. and they are not pushing anyone down any line. those people instantly are queued again at the front of the line. Thats why they get teh same person dropping queue over and over because there is NO one else in front of them and no one else trying to fill that role currently. how hard is that to understand!!!!!!!!!!!

This post proves my point.

How do you say such thing with such a straight face ?

because no other groups are a head of them and no other tanks are queueing they keep getting paired with this group. If the guy leaving never queued this group would STILL be waiting.

[Zantetsuken]

The other method of *blind entering* is not a good one *in my opinion*. I never liked this in WoW, and you can often times skip a boss you might have either wanted loot or philo tomes from. This also can happen when queuing as a full group keep in mind, and could screw a lot of people (including DD/heals) out of gear.

Blind entering would only put a player in in-progress parties if the player had checked the box in DF (as it does now). You'll never have to worry about skipping bosses/loot if you don't have it checked.


Personally, I think it's the best solution.

[Traek]

Blind entering would only put a player in in-progress parties if the player had checked the box in DF (as it does now). You'll never have to worry about skipping bosses/loot if you don't have it checked.


Personally, I think it's the best solution.

That is true, I was thinking a total blind enter without the option. If it were still an option then you are right this would be a comparable/good solution. The penalty method on a number of withdrawals would work similar, but still let people know if they are joining an in progress or not. I kinda looked at that as a win, as well as encouraging people looking for in progress groups to stagger their queues, instead of click off and on constantly.