Tanks Who Constantly Queue and Then Withdraw Trying to Get in Progress Instances

[Sove92]

It's also completely my right to harass 23 players just because I can play how I want, amirite? There are others with limited game time as well, it's not just you. Withdraws waste their time.

[Mailstrum]

It's also completely my right to harass 23 players just because I can play how I want, amirite? There are others with limited game time as well, it's not just you. Withdraws waste their time.

are you dense? my withdraws do not waste their time. IF i do not queue at all YOU Would STILL BE WAITING for a tank queue. do you not understand that. the only thing my withdraws do its make you excited for a pop up.... Thats it.

[ispano]

are you dense? my withdraws do not waste their time. IF i do not queue at all YOU Would STILL BE WAITING for a tank queue. do you not understand that. the only thing my withdraws do its make you excited for a pop up.... Thats it.

Except, as I said before, you're not fully correct. Just by virtue of doing what you're doing, you can easily make the lead group miss out on a tank that doesn't mind a full group, just to satisfy your need. Things like this, and the reverse as well, are why other popular mmos don't tell you what the progress is.

Also, many of them don't do it instantly. I'd say there's a 10 second gap on average.

[Mailstrum]

Except, as I said before, you're not fully correct. Just by virtue of doing what you're doing, you can easily make the lead group miss out on a tank that doesn't mind a full group, just to satisfy your need. Things like this, and the reverse as well, are why other popular mmos don't tell you what the progress is.

thats not true.... if you look at the dutyfinder 23/24 people are built together... you are all in the same queue waitinig for the 24th person if i withdraw. the duty finder goes back to 5/6 6/6 12/12 the same 23 people are in the same queue together.

[flamds1]

thats not true.... if you look at the dutyfinder 23/24 people are built together... you are all in the same queue waitinig for the 24th person if i withdraw. the duty finder goes back to 5/6 6/6 12/12 the same 23 people are in the same queue together.

Not necessarily just because the numbers are the same doesn't mean it's the same people. Unless there's only one group of people queueing for ct and theres more than that.

[ispano]

thats not true.... if you look at the dutyfinder 23/24 people are built together... you are all in the same queue waitinig for the 24th person if i withdraw. the duty finder goes back to 5/6 6/6 12/12 the same 23 people are in the same queue together.

So if another tank popped into queue after one of your queues, he would get the group AFTER that 7/8 or 23/24 pushing them ahead and making the group that WAS in front, wait even longer.

Not to mention what someone else said about people finally getting in and having all sorts of varying withdrawal amounts. You're sitting on 23/24 and keep getting drops? One guy in the instance(not a tank) says he got in with 1 or 2. I've seen it happen myself too.

The difference here is i'm not telling you not to do it. I'm going to tell you not to think of yourself as the righteous correct one doing nothing "wrong". You choose to do it, and it can and does affect others.

[Aegis]

are you dense? my withdraws do not waste their time. IF i do not queue at all YOU Would STILL BE WAITING for a tank queue. do you not understand that. the only thing my withdraws do its make you excited for a pop up.... Thats it.

Are you dense?

It's been said multiple times that it does affect others' play time. If you have a problem with the assertion, refute it, don't just ignore it because it's inconvenient to your attempt to maintain your self image.

[Aegis]

you can still do those things.... like i said before to someone else. Feel free to have the "need" to click the commence button the SECOND it pops or be smart and wait 10 seconds before you click. anyone withdrawing is gonna do it instantly... so you can still go on about your way till you see the queue pop stick..

So I wait 20 seconds, switch from BTN, lose all my GP then tank drops? Back to BTN, back to 0 GP.

[Mailstrum]

So I wait 20 seconds, switch from BTN, lose all my GP then tank drops? Back to BTN, back to 0 GP.

thats just the thing.... the tank isnt gonna wait 20second before he drops.. he is gonna drop the INSTANT the queu pops and its not an inprogress dungeon.

[Aegis]

how does it extend your time??? give proof because ive explained to you how it doesnt...

2 groups of 23 people are queuing, waiting for one tank. Tank pops, instance is reserved, everyone accepts, tank drops. In the meantime a second tank queues, joins the second alliance, they go in, leapfrogging the first alliance.

thats just the thing.... the tank isnt gonna wait 20second before he drops.. he is gonna drop the INSTANT the queu pops and its not an inprogress dungeon.

Except they don't.

I understand how you feel like it hinders your play but I promise you that your wait time is not inflated because of someone withdrawing.

You're wrong. You refuse to see it because you don't want to see yourself as someone who jerks others around, but that's exactly what you're doing. Not only does it increase the chance that people will have to wait longer, it affects what they can do while they are waiting and not only that, it's just plain annoying to have it pop every 30 seconds and drop anywhere between 5-40 seconds later.