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    Synapse's Avatar
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    Many fails to see how it affects everyone.

    There are many instances being formed at the same time.

    Lets say you get a confirmation pop up, and one member decided to withdraw, while he is making that decision, a 2nd instances is being formed at the moment(maybe 3rd and 4th instances as well depending on the players).

    This case, the 2nd instance tanks don't withdraw and they accept, so yeah, the first instance is still getting screwed, they are "pushed back" in a sense where they didn't have enough players to progress.

    Also i have experienced, after 40th(after a lot of times) time someone withdraws, sometimes the DF kicks your pt from queue, meaning, you have to re-register.

    1 Min penalty is needed for multiple withdrawal - just enough to prevent spamming.

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    I think mainly this thread is aimed at tanks is because of the fact its is almost always 1 tank short to progress.
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    Erik Shepard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mailstrum View Post
    thats not true.... if you look at the dutyfinder 23/24 people are built together... you are all in the same queue waitinig for the 24th person if i withdraw. the duty finder goes back to 5/6 6/6 12/12 the same 23 people are in the same queue together.
    Care to counter-argue the following quote then?

    Quote Originally Posted by Synapse View Post
    Also i have experienced, after 40th(after a lot of times) time someone withdraws, sometimes the DF kicks your pt from queue, meaning, you have to re-register.
    The same thing has happened to me multiple times as well (not after that many withdraws though), and is quite annoying and frustrating and a waste of my time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikorayu View Post
    Care to counter-argue the following quote then?



    The same thing has happened to me multiple times as well (not after that many withdraws though), and is quite annoying and frustrating and a waste of my time.
    as far as i know thats a totaly different issue a bug in the duty finder. I've seen that happen after 1 queue and NO one withdraw in a 4 man.
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    This is how i normaly do this. I queue for inprogress looking for a 2/4 if it doesnt pop after 3 or 4 times i just take a full run. because then at that point it becomes obv there are no inprogress groups running and its starting to take to long to get in a run. So i do a full one. My goal is to get as many 3rd and 4th boss kills that week untill the piece i need drops and i win the role. So looking for a 2/4 inporgress run is highly effencent for me. This is why this feature exsists. I understand how you feel like it hinders your play but I promise you that your wait time is not inflated because of someone withdrawing. You would still be waiting for a tank to fill that last spot anyways. If there was enough tanks queueing to fill your group you wouldnt get the same guy withdrawing over and over. I am just playing the game with an option and doing it th way it was intended. If you do not like that then i'm sorry but you should just go one with playing the game. instead of coming here complaining over something that is not effecting anyone.
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    Make the ban a week, anyone willing to make 7 other's queue take 30+ minutes deserves to lose a lockout. I also don't think the flag system should be in. If you queue more than 4 times in 3 minutes, you should get a week ban.
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    people like you i swear Ban ban ban for using a feature in the game the way its intended.

    Quote Originally Posted by Calyanare View Post
    I'm pretty sure this isn't the way it was intended to be used.
    its exactly the way its intneded. I want to join an inprogress run. So i click the inprogress option. and then i queue and wait for a queue pop for an inprogress run. How is that not how its intended to be used.

    Quote Originally Posted by flamds1 View Post
    Im pretty sure repeatedly spamming withdraw until you get what you want isn't working as intended. Just joing the inprogress only queue and you won't be inconveniencing anyone. You've already stated you don't have any intention of joining a new start so why would you join a new start queue?
    there isnt a join inprogres only queue.... I am using the options given to me to join an inprogress group.

    Quote Originally Posted by Synapse View Post
    You are assuming your the only instances being formed. There are multiple forming. Whenever the reconfirmation resets due to withdrawing, the players you see again are not the same.

    Try this: After getting withdrawing 20x, and the party formed, ask anyone in the pt(formed from DF) if they had 20x withdrawals.

    I bet they would not have had that, some may just had 3 and some may have had 30. I tried this with CT, after finally enter on the 35th withdrawal, then members said they didn't even get that many.

    It mixes ppl around every time someone withdraws.
    That exactly what happens. before when i needed loot of first 2 bosses i would see this happen with the withdraw and people in all 3 alliances would be like "FINALY!!! that guy must of withdrew like 10 times!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by flamds1 View Post
    and when the status goes to 0/6 /0/6 2/12 how do you explain that? Where did the 23 other people go?
    When that happens full groups Withdrew from the queue to try and get away from the one guy withdrawing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    Oh, wait, I got it all wrong, you checked the option to only queue up for in progress runs?

    That option does not exist, therefore doing in progress runs only is not intended.

    That option is to say you are open to join in progress runs also, not only.
    i could understand you guys getting upset if it actually effected you. but it doesnt. It doesnt inflate you queue time at most it gets your hopes up when you see the queue pop.

    It seems ive used my daily posting.....
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    Last edited by Mailstrum; 01-14-2014 at 11:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mailstrum View Post
    people like you i swear Ban ban ban for using a feature in the game the way its intended.
    I'm pretty sure this isn't the way it was intended to be used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mailstrum View Post
    its exactly the way its intneded. I want to join an inprogress run. So i click the inprogress option. and then i queue and wait for a queue pop for an inprogress run. How is that not how its intended to be used.
    You're confusing a possible use with an intended use. Is it possible to tick the in-progress box and then be a jerk and continually withdraw until you actually get a run that's in progress? Yes. Did they add this function to the game just so you could do this? No. The intended purpose of the "join in progress" feature is to help out groups who have someone disconnect or leave (or get kicked, now) during a dungeon, so that they don't all have to leave and start over, not to save you time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mailstrum View Post
    its exactly the way its intneded. I want to join an inprogress run. So i click the inprogress option. and then i queue and wait for a queue pop for an inprogress run. How is that not how its intended to be used.
    Oh, wait, I got it all wrong, you checked the option to only queue up for in progress runs?

    That option does not exist, therefore doing in progress runs only is not intended.

    That option is to say you are open to join in progress runs also, not only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mailstrum View Post
    people like you i swear Ban ban ban for using a feature in the game the way its intended.
    Im pretty sure repeatedly spamming withdraw until you get what you want isn't working as intended. Just joing the inprogress only queue and you won't be inconveniencing anyone. You've already stated you don't have any intention of joining a new start so why would you join a new start queue?
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