Tanks Who Constantly Queue and Then Withdraw Trying to Get in Progress Instances

[Nica]

withdrawing for dungeon queue looking for a party already inprogress is no less "honest" then looking for a full run. there is an option to look for inprogress runs and there is an option to withdraw using these 2 options are not dishonest...

Nobody say it is, it’s when the option is being abused to the constant detriment and annoyance of a large group of player solely for the convenience of a single one.

then sir welcome to life.... if you do not want to wait on a system that is in place that people are using as intended then i'm sorry to tell you that you will never be happy.

A system working as intended doesn’t mean the devs didn’t miss the obvious loopholes in the system they designed, something not exactly uncommon for SE.

I never said the system wasn’t working correctly, what I’m saying is that it’s a shitty system that needs to be adjusted to take into account of the assholes.

Looking for the type of dungeon they are queued for. Its no more being a DB then withdrawing from the queue pop because you want to finish a fate or finish a craft. its the reason there is a withdraw button in the first place.

Funny, it’s almost as if the word “scale” doesn’t exist in your vocabulary.

it does not hurt other players. It does not INFLATE the time they have to wait in any way

So, how much are you gonna pay me next time one of your type's stunt breaks the DF group because people got sick of your shit?

[faldette]

Makes me wonder how often players spend the same amount of time in-progress fishing that it would have taken to actually play the content they're trying to skip....

Oh, oh, maybe SE should specifically cater to those players and implement a end-of-dungeon-only instance, where you only have to fight the last boss and get the same rewards as those doing the whole dungeon. /terribleidea

[NefGP]

I don't agree with the OP's punishments (3-day ban) but some kind of penalty should be inflicted upon these "DF trolls". It's gotten especially annoying when trying to do CT - I swear the damn thing triggers 20+ times in the span of a few minutes.

[Tiraelina]

This, on the other hand, is an example of a poor solution that would punish honest players who happen to be in combat or some other situation where their timer may run out accidentally.

So it's a poor solution because you were already in the middle of something preventing you from accepting or were AFK? Both of which a few minutes are likely pretty irrelevant. I don't see how the honest player is being "punished".

Alternatively you don't understand the need for the queue timing out being included. You don't want to be waiting 45 seconds each attempt from that guy trying to get an in-progress.

[Hanabira]

No one here has ever had to wait an additional 10-15+ mins because someone keeps spam withdrawing at 23/24? this happens ALL that time, theres no way you cant say it doesnt interfere with queues.

[Cichard]

No one here has ever had to wait an additional 10-15+ mins because someone keeps spam withdrawing at 23/24? this happens ALL that time, theres no way you cant say it doesnt interfere with queues.

but how do you know its EXTRA 10-15min. what if that guy never queued at all.... you would still BE WAITING those 10-15 min looking for a tank or the last spot that wants to do a full run. there is a GAP in time between the person withdrawing and them requeueing if there was someone else to fill that spot it would fill it in that time frame. So NO you are not waiting 10 or 15min more.

[Hanabira]

no youre wrong, it was an extra 10-15 minutes because i had to keep clicking "enter" over and over and over until that person found his in-progress dungeon and then the queue finally gives us a person with a soul. And if i dont keep clicking enter when it pops, then IM the one that gets booted out of the queue and have to wait all over again.

And with the way the CT DF works, even with a premade party, you have to deal with 16 other people, and its very common that someone is spamming withdraw, especially at the end of the week

[Cichard]

no youre wrong, it was an extra 10-15 minutes because i had to keep clicking "enter" over and over and over until that person found his in-progress dungeon and then the queue finally gives us a person with a soul. And if i dont keep clicking enter when it pops, then IM the one that gets booted out of the queue and have to wait all over again.

And with the way the CT DF works, even with a premade party, you have to deal with 16 other people, and its very common that someone is spamming withdraw, especially at the end of the week

first off you do not have to keep clicking it.... if someone with draws before the timer is up you dont need to click it.... you only need to click it before your timer is up. it if goes away before your timer is up it doesnt effect you. and it is not increasing your time....

[Nica]

and it is not increasing your time....

As a previous poster said, this is wrong

Being a tank sitting next to a dps has permitted me to test the theory that the people in the group that had someone withdraw are put at the front of the line is incorrect.

Easiest way to test this is using Main Scenario DR, have the dps queue then when they are placed in reservation there is always at least one tank still needed. At this point the tank queues getting placed into that same group. Someone then either withdraws or misses the queue. At this point the tank is immediately placed in another group but the dps has another 30-45 minute wait as they were sent to the back of the dps line.

/micdrop

[Hanabira]

first off you do not have to keep clicking it.... if someone with draws before the timer is up you dont need to click it.... you only need to click it before your timer is up. it if goes away before your timer is up it doesnt effect you. and it is not increasing your time....

Youre kidding right? When someone withdraws, it cancels the entire thing, and makes the enter dungeon button pop up again, you HAVE to click it because its asking you if you want to enter the dungeon again, as the person who posted the picture of the constant commences.. he had to click enter dungeon every single time for probably 20 minutes because of you probably