"Need" should check ilevel

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He probably means his Warrior is in full myth that his Paladin cannot use so he's gearing Paladin up in CT gears.

Except if he means this there's really no problem because he's either greeding on the gear or needing it on an alt who actually does need the gear. I'm not so far gone to suggest people apply mains>alts to duty finder raids but mains>seals or mains>vanity, yes, I think that. I just figured he wouldn't be in such a rush to disprove the OP that he provided an example that really no one would have a problem with.

With regards to the rest of your post, I just generally disagree, I comprehend the arguments but I think if you want the gear for vanity or any other trivial purpose then you should defer. Also I don't want to mince about what's trivial and not. There's a primary purpose for gear, and that's to increase stats. I love vanity but I truly believe all uses for gear are secondary to increasing someone's stats, especially in a tiered system where there is an overt amount of focus placed on stats. If you want to lower the ilvl requirement on your next PF group or not get upset if you die a few times on Haukke HM then you're at least being consistent. Though it just seems like there are a lot of people who expect people to be geared and I imagine they overlap with the people needing Ifrit Axes because they look cool.

Once you place your vanity over someone's gear you lose all right to expect people to be geared.

edit: I will put in the caveat that most of this gear isn't anything near BiS, CT loot can be replaced by badge gear (Right?) and HM primal weapons aren't better than relics (Right?), so it's not like I think it's some grand insult to need on this gear, however I do generally disagree with it on principle. I don't think it's a horrible thing to do or that the loot system needs to be rewritten to stop it, but I'm not going to say that person has an equal right to the gear, because I don't think they do.