"Need" should check ilevel

[Worm]

Also its both unfair and kind of insulting to say these other reasons are "trivial." To be frank, many would say most player who are currently at a state where a primal weapon is a upgerade, this late in the patch cycle... are probably awful or casuals. (Or someone who will one day be great and just started). Some would argue that loot going to a "bad" is a "waste" and thus their "need" is "trivial." If we all show up to the fight and help earn the win, we all get a chance i think.

I think you're reading a too little into it. When I say trivial purpose I mean non-game purpose. Rolling on gear to turn it into seals is the same thing is vanity and that's the same thing as leaving it to rot on your retainer because they are non-stat purposes, that's all. Not to mention it's kind of funny to have you complain about players who need this gear being awful when you'd probably make the same complaint about someone rocking their GC weapon.

If you really want to get into it I'd say Vanity>Bag>Seals but your argument basically justifies someone needing to turn something into seals. "What if they really need the seals? They have an equal right to roll need, we all downed the boss and we deserve the right to roll!" If you're okay with that, fine. I'm not OK with it, I think if someone can increase their numbers in a game which is obsessed with the highest possible numbers they should. I think it's wrong to deny someone their slightly higher numbers or place your vanity gear (or seals) as just as important as their slightly higher numbers.

Obviously taking gear someone can use as an upgrade (no matter how temporary) and taking it and turning it into GC Seals is wrong, if you don't think so whatever. But if you think that's not a nice thing to do then we have to accept there is a general etiquette surrounding loot and that the NEED button has different meaning than the GREED button. So if we accept there is some sort of loot etiquette well then we can expand that etiquette to decide when it is acceptable or not acceptable to roll on something and discuss than with people in the group. It's obviously a superior way to act than silently needing everything and leaving groups before someone can inspect you to object.