"Need" should check ilevel

[ispano]

Most people in CT aren't there just to help random people get loot, they're there to get a particular item for themselves, even if it is just for vanity. What would be the point in even trying to get a complete set if you'll never win over someone who has a lower item level than you?

He's trying to push his preferences on a DF group, something many before have tried to do. If it was a premade, these things can be agreed upon prior. But it's DF, his rules don't apply.

[Arcaloid]

If this is true, everyone will go to those BOSS fight with the minimum gear requirements so they can "need" things, not good.

[rabbitzero]

If this is true, everyone will go to those BOSS fight with the minimum gear requirements so they can "need" things, not good.

This, people will game the system as much as possible to get what they want. You'd see people in the absolute minimum to get the "need". Doesn't matter if they would make the fight harder, if it gives them a chance at it, they'd do it.

[Daiiawn]

I have smn and blm, I want the body from CT from my smn, but my blm is much better geared so I do coil on blm for the extra dps. Should I be punished and not able to get the body for my smn, just because my blm has i90? Or should I be forced to do it on a job that im less effective on?

[Thaliss]

I have smn and blm, I want the body from CT from my smn, but my blm is much better geared so I do coil on blm for the extra dps. Should I be punished and not able to get the body for my smn, just because my blm has i90? Or should I be forced to do it on a job that im less effective on?

I agree with Daiiawn I do CT with my SCH with AF2 torso but i am looking the torso drop for my WHM.

If you really want to be able to set your need rules you run with a group of people you know and agree about looting rules. Otherwise the system with randoms is almost fine (be fast enough to pass at last loot in CT or you can get stuck with something you don't want )

[Meric]

What an odd idea - I can understand making rules like this within an FC, where it is to everyone's benefit to spread loot to players who need it. However, in a duty finder group every player is there as an individual, has played a part in obtaining loot, and should have a fair chance to get it. The Need/Greed split is there to ensure people who are playing a class get priority over those who might be looking to gear up a job they're not playing, and I think anything more than that would be absurd.

Vanity is a perfectly valid reason to want lesser equipment in a video game.

[ispano]

What an odd idea - I can understand making rules like this within an FC, where it is to everyone's benefit to spread loot to players who need it. However, in a duty finder group every player is there as an individual, has played a part in obtaining loot, and should have a fair chance to get it. The Need/Greed split is there to ensure people who are playing a class get priority over those who might be looking to gear up a job they're not playing, and I think anything more than that would be absurd.

Vanity is a perfectly valid reason to want lesser equipment in a video game.

This was my main point. It was a DF group.

[tOnni3]

Anybody in party has right to lot the item. L2P

[Archona]

Let me translate the OP's point for you:

"I want all the loots for myself. If you have more gear than me, that means you are meant to carry me to victory and shorten my queue times."

[Mintyfresh]

Let me translate the OP's point for you:
"I want all the loots for myself. If you have more gear than me, that means you are meant to carry me to victory and shorten my queue times."

./facepalm
You can't fix stupid.
If that's how you perceive the OP's post, I kind of pity your coworkers and friends due to your innate ability to be totally illogical.