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    but it doesn't happen in any other game is the main point you are missing. So SE has cheap servers, or cheap netcode, take your pick.
    No, it's not the main point i'm missing. We explained in multiple posts over the lsat page WHY it's happening in this game and not others. It is NOT a netcode issue, it is an internet backbone issue- important routers along the path many people's connections take to the NA data center are having problems that are causing the lag issue. Both you and the 1 person to like your post seem to be missing that we've addressed this already. Unless you can name another game that is served out of the same data center, of course it's only going to affect this game, because it is routers leading to that datacenter causing the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    No, it's not the main point i'm missing. We explained in multiple posts over the lsat page WHY it's happening in this game and not others. It is NOT a netcode issue, it is an internet backbone issue- important routers along the path many people's connections take to the NA data center are having problems that are causing the lag issue. Both you and the 1 person to like your post seem to be missing that we've addressed this already. Unless you can name another game that is served out of the same data center, of course it's only going to affect this game, because it is routers leading to that datacenter causing the problem.
    A problem exists with their product service, so it is their fault. Would you goto the grocery store, and buy spoiled fruits, and when you ask the manager about the spoiled fruits, he says "its not our problem, our vendor supplied them to us like that nothing we can do!"? They would probably (already have) losing customers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squa View Post
    A problem exists with their product service, so it is their fault. Would you goto the grocery store, and buy spoiled fruits, and when you ask the manager about the spoiled fruits, he says "its not our problem, our vendor supplied them to us like that nothing we can do!"? They would probably (already have) losing customers.
    Your analogy doesn't work. It would be more like an intersection on the way to the store is clogged because everyone uses it, so you complain to the store manager to fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Your analogy doesn't work. It would be more like an intersection on the way to the store is clogged because everyone uses it, so you complain to the store manager to fix it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    No, the problem doesn't exist with their product service. The problem exists with underlying internet infrastructure carrying data to the datacenter that SE is using. Short of moving to a new datacenter, there is little they can do to solve that problem.
    This thread is like watching the two of you talk to a brick wall. Maybe if they repeat "netcode" enough it will become the actual root of the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marleytiva View Post
    This thread is like watching the two of you talk to a brick wall. Maybe if they repeat "netcode" enough it will become the actual root of the problem.
    I'm just happy that someone understands it.

    None of this is meant to imply that SE has written perfect server software, but the issue at hand has nothing to do with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Your analogy doesn't work. It would be more like an intersection on the way to the store is clogged because everyone uses it, so you complain to the store manager to fix it.
    Spot on Ispano and thanks Alhanelem for keeping it civilized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Your analogy doesn't work. It would be more like an intersection on the way to the store is clogged because everyone uses it, so you complain to the store manager to fix it.
    Well I would. I would complain about why they decided to set up at a location where you can't get to.

    It's as real estate agency's say, location, location and location. S-E didn't bother to check if the location they setup shop at could handle it. Most likely they only considered the cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squa View Post
    A problem exists with their product service, so it is their fault. Would you goto the grocery store, and buy spoiled fruits, and when you ask the manager about the spoiled fruits, he says "its not our problem, our vendor supplied them to us like that nothing we can do!"? They would probably (already have) losing customers.
    No, the problem doesn't exist with their product service. The problem exists with underlying internet infrastructure carrying data to the datacenter that SE is using. Short of moving to a new datacenter, there is little they can do to solve that problem.
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