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  1. #31
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    raidcou's Avatar
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    Laicou Thunderbug
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    Bahamut
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    How about mega potion of intellect?
    It give a 15sec small burst but it take 5MIN CD
    Normal I will combine it with the raging strike to maximize damage output.
    But I found that using potion give me about 0.2sec delay before i can cast spell.
    So now I start using below rotation on raging strike:

    (in UI3 buff) thunder II/III > Fire III > potion > raging strike > Fire I > ETC.
    After casting Fire III, I have some time to use the potion and cast raging strike as cast time of Fire II in UI3 is less than recast time
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  2. #32
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    Ooshima's Avatar
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by raidcou View Post
    How about mega potion of intellect?
    It give a 15sec small burst but it take 5MIN CD
    Normal I will combine it with the raging strike to maximize damage output.
    But I found that using potion give me about 0.2sec delay before i can cast spell.
    So now I start using below rotation on raging strike:

    (in UI3 buff) thunder II/III > Fire III > potion > raging strike > Fire I > ETC.
    After casting Fire III, I have some time to use the potion and cast raging strike as cast time of Fire II in UI3 is less than recast time
    I'm going to level a BLM soon, but my BLM friends told me that intel pot is to be used like Pot + raging strikes then Flare > Convert > Swiftcast-Flare > Transpose > should still have some time for 2 Fire I or so.
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  3. #33
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    Peptaru's Avatar
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    Tarragon Lai
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by bardaboo View Post
    Ok. Let me clarify. While spamming fire 1 the cast time is reduced is it not? Just like the cast time of fire3 and bliz3 are reduced while in oposite phase. I've noticed that the spell speed of fire 1 reduces the more you cast. Casting the free proc resets this so your next fire1 is a hard cast. Im aware of the GCD. That being said. I have still started incorporating into my rotation more. So there
    The one word that comes to mind is "....ummmmm." cuz just wow. Please don't tell people that it works this way, cuz someone might actually believe you if you say it convincingly.
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  4. #34
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    Pacifyer Grey
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by glen7187 View Post
    For AoE rotations, I personally use one from another BLM Rotation thread that I'm having trouble finding but its basically this:

    Fire 3 > Fire 2 ... (until around 1000 mp) > Flare > [Transpose > wait 2 seconds after first mp tick > Flare > Fire 2 > Flare >] repeat
    I am aware of this rotation and it is a bit better than one I listed in my post DPS-wise. However this rotation has some flaws:
    - It is a direct using of a flaw in game coding which will probably be removed at some point
    - Many people will fail timing for the first Flare cast and will end up w/o mana until Transpose goes off CD thus losing DPS and blaming me for it.
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  5. #35
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    Pacifyer Grey
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by bardaboo View Post
    Ok. Let me clarify. While spamming fire 1 the cast time is reduced is it not? Just like the cast time of fire3 and bliz3 are reduced while in oposite phase. I've noticed that the spell speed of fire 1 reduces the more you cast. Casting the free proc resets this so your next fire1 is a hard cast. Im aware of the GCD. That being said. I have still started incorporating into my rotation more. So there
    Man, pass me that weed
    Any cast time reducing is a figment of your imagination and a result of your connection unstability. The game client artificially accelerates/deaccelerates castbar trying to sync with server.
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  6. #36
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    Peptaru's Avatar
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    Tarragon Lai
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacifyer View Post
    I am aware of this rotation and it is a bit better than one I listed in my post DPS-wise. However this rotation has some flaws:
    - It is a direct using of a flaw in game coding which will probably be removed at some point
    - Many people will fail timing for the first Flare cast and will end up w/o mana until Transpose goes off CD thus losing DPS and blaming me for it.
    They already fixed it, I think it will be a long time before the fix it again.
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  7. #37
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    IAmPotent's Avatar
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    Nefael Yunalesca
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Regarding saving your Firestarter proc to start your next rotation.

    If you're using Scathe in your rotation as your filler, you can Transpose during the GCD between Scathe and Fire 3.

    Timed right you still get full MP as well as being in AF1 for the Firestarter proc.(thus not wasting the proc on an UI3 buff)
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  8. #38
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    I never save my firestarter procs, but I do occasionally have one left over if it procs during my Blizzard III cast since I don't wait to see if the last Fire procs or not. When that happens I never start the next damage rotation with the Fire III proc, but use a Fire first to take advantage of the fast cast time which also erases the Umbral Ice effect eliminating the reduced damage on the proc. It's both faster and more damage to do it that way. I haven't tried using transpose to put myself into a single stack of Astral Fire and then leading with the proc, however, and that seems like it would be effective even if not using Scathe as the filler. I'll have to test it.
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  9. #39
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    Pacifyer Grey
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by IAmPotent View Post
    Regarding saving your Firestarter proc to start your next rotation.

    If you're using Scathe in your rotation as your filler, you can Transpose during the GCD between Scathe and Fire 3.

    Timed right you still get full MP as well as being in AF1 for the Firestarter proc.(thus not wasting the proc on an UI3 buff)
    I like this one ^^
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  10. #40
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    Kochie Monster
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacifyer View Post
    Man, pass me that weed
    Any cast time reducing is a figment of your imagination and a result of your connection unstability. The game client artificially accelerates/deaccelerates castbar trying to sync with server.
    I'll do some tests later. But I highly doubt that im imagining it. Bliz 3 casts faster then normal from AF and that's not mentioned in the description. So why not this?
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