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  1. #1
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    glen7187's Avatar
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    Faitte Kurusu
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by bardaboo View Post
    Ok. Doesn't flare not only use all your mp but put you into astral fire? So how can you follow up flare with a fire 2? Also. Instead of waiting 2 seconds why not cast a blizzard or something.
    What happens is, after you Transpose you are in UI1, after 1 tick of MP, you want to wait 2 seconds then start casting Flare. The reason is because when your Flare casts, you lose all your MP but the MP tick comes in right after (which is why you need to wait 2 seconds after the first MP tick and you don't cast anything while you wait) giving you around 1100 MP after casting Flare. That allows you to follow up with a Fire 2 (leaving you with just under 300 MP) and then another Flare after, then Transpose again.

    The 2 second wait is to make your Flare cast line up with the MP ticks, so that Flare you wouldn't want to Swiftcast. The other Flares you can Swiftcast. What I will sometimes do if I have Raging Strikes up is I'll do:

    Fire 3 > Fire 2 until around 1000 MP > Raging Strikes > Flare > Convert > Swiftcast > Flare > [Transpose > wait 2 seconds after MP tick > Flare > Fire 2 > Flare >] repeat

    absolutely melts mobs...
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    Last edited by glen7187; 01-15-2014 at 08:49 AM.

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    Laicou Thunderbug
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    Bahamut
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    How about mega potion of intellect?
    It give a 15sec small burst but it take 5MIN CD
    Normal I will combine it with the raging strike to maximize damage output.
    But I found that using potion give me about 0.2sec delay before i can cast spell.
    So now I start using below rotation on raging strike:

    (in UI3 buff) thunder II/III > Fire III > potion > raging strike > Fire I > ETC.
    After casting Fire III, I have some time to use the potion and cast raging strike as cast time of Fire II in UI3 is less than recast time
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    Ooshima's Avatar
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by raidcou View Post
    How about mega potion of intellect?
    It give a 15sec small burst but it take 5MIN CD
    Normal I will combine it with the raging strike to maximize damage output.
    But I found that using potion give me about 0.2sec delay before i can cast spell.
    So now I start using below rotation on raging strike:

    (in UI3 buff) thunder II/III > Fire III > potion > raging strike > Fire I > ETC.
    After casting Fire III, I have some time to use the potion and cast raging strike as cast time of Fire II in UI3 is less than recast time
    I'm going to level a BLM soon, but my BLM friends told me that intel pot is to be used like Pot + raging strikes then Flare > Convert > Swiftcast-Flare > Transpose > should still have some time for 2 Fire I or so.
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    IAmPotent's Avatar
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    Nefael Yunalesca
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Regarding saving your Firestarter proc to start your next rotation.

    If you're using Scathe in your rotation as your filler, you can Transpose during the GCD between Scathe and Fire 3.

    Timed right you still get full MP as well as being in AF1 for the Firestarter proc.(thus not wasting the proc on an UI3 buff)
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    Pacifyer Grey
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by IAmPotent View Post
    Regarding saving your Firestarter proc to start your next rotation.

    If you're using Scathe in your rotation as your filler, you can Transpose during the GCD between Scathe and Fire 3.

    Timed right you still get full MP as well as being in AF1 for the Firestarter proc.(thus not wasting the proc on an UI3 buff)
    I like this one ^^
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    I never save my firestarter procs, but I do occasionally have one left over if it procs during my Blizzard III cast since I don't wait to see if the last Fire procs or not. When that happens I never start the next damage rotation with the Fire III proc, but use a Fire first to take advantage of the fast cast time which also erases the Umbral Ice effect eliminating the reduced damage on the proc. It's both faster and more damage to do it that way. I haven't tried using transpose to put myself into a single stack of Astral Fire and then leading with the proc, however, and that seems like it would be effective even if not using Scathe as the filler. I'll have to test it.
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    Kochie Monster
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacifyer View Post
    Man, pass me that weed
    Any cast time reducing is a figment of your imagination and a result of your connection unstability. The game client artificially accelerates/deaccelerates castbar trying to sync with server.
    I'll do some tests later. But I highly doubt that im imagining it. Bliz 3 casts faster then normal from AF and that's not mentioned in the description. So why not this?
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    Paco Taco
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 80
    All Fire spell cast times are reduced if you are in Umbral Ice III, and all Ice spell cast times are reduced if you are in Astral Fire III.
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    Last edited by Rameatz; 01-17-2014 at 09:03 PM.

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    Claire Pendragon
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Yes Fire1 will cast faster while under the effects of Umbral Ice3. BUT you are STILL limited to the GCD, which means you finish early, but cant cast spells till the full 2.5 have passed.

    That is why it's not better to wait. (with a 40% chance to go off every spell, its pretty good DPS to use)

    Instead of waiting to see the Fire3 proc, i just move (to cancel the spell) and hit Fire3.

    Since you would have to cut out that dmg in the wait, might as well preemptive every fire1, as u wait to see.

    If you waited or not, the GCD doesnt go off till you hit that Fire3, with the same delay in both cases.

    The only real issue, is making sure u dont get too comfortable hitting Fire1, and letting it finish. (As I'm still trained to do, even though I know not to.)
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

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    Akira Pink
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 50
    i find this whole "rotation guide" thing very silly.

    keep dots up, switch to ice stuff when you run low on mana. spam fire 1.
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