BLM: Endgame guide and rotations

[Kabooa]

Quelling Strikes is useful period. Good luck surviving Phase 1 or 4 of Turn 4 without it while not holding back.

Done.

I find Quelling is more compelling when argued for Garuda or Titan EX. It's margin for error, really, or a minor gain for DPS time. Hardly an end all / be all.

[Royze]

Just some observations, corrections on some things you've said

1. Single Target:
You're missing out on an additional Fire1 and potentially another Firestarter Fire III - Huge dps decrease over the course of a 5-10 minute fight.

If your MP is above 700, cast another Fire 1, then swift cast flare to use the remaining MP. If convert is up, use it and then cast another Fire 1 followed by Blizard III -> ThunderII or Scathe.
You need minimum 250sh MP to cast flare. That's great DMG potential and MP efficiency when combined with swiftcast.




you can either start with a swiftcast ThunderIII if its a boss with a large enough HP pool to justify using your swiftcast, or incorporate Swiftcast-> Flare


2. AOE
You can transpose and then spam BlizardII as you climb the MP refresh.

Another side note, BlizardIII is not poor DMG by any means. Its inferior to FireIII and Fire1 spam in Astral Fire mode, but it isn't weak by any means. My BlizardIII's can crit for more than 1k.

[Pacifyer]

Just some observations, corrections on some things you've said

1. Single Target:
You're mst flare. That's great DMG potential and MP efficiency when combined with swiftcast.

you can either start with a swiftcast ThunderIII if its a boss with a large enough HP pool to justify using your swiftcast, or incorporate Swiftcast-> Flare

Swiftcast + Flare is great for ST only if you can Convert + Blizzard III out of it. If you are saving convert or it is on CD using Flare is way too bad as getting up from 0 mana with transpose will be too painful as both Fire III and Blizzard III are slow cast at that point so you will be losing DPS.

[xRitzx]

Scathe should only be used for moving, never just for a filler. Even blizzard 1 (150 potency) is better than scathe (100 potency with 20% chance it will double). Also, you shouldn't suggest replacing thunder with blizzard or scathe while waiting for mana to regen during Umbral Ice. Keeping thunder up for potential thundercould procs is better DPS.

[Holyhunter]

BLM is severely gimped without quelling strikes. No quelling strikes basically means you have to force yourself to not do the full damage possible

[TitanACU]

BLM is severely gimped without quelling strikes. No quelling strikes basically means you have to force yourself to not do the full damage possible

You have some shitty tanks or you start casting Fire III before the tank even pulls. (like so many BLMs do.) Try starting with Blizzard III->thunder II->Fire III , then you can unload on him while getting a free thunder in there. If may be less DPS at first but that beginning is where tanks establish hate. if youre fighting for it in the beginning then its harder for the tank to keep it. I dont have an issue with hate either way, but ive been a PLD since day 1, but there are alot of new tanks, especially WARs. You can help them by starting your BLM rotation with BIII->THII. Unfortunaltely, WAR is the "flavor of the month job" as more ppl are playing them since the patch. That being said they are mostly new ppl to tanking in general...

[Peptaru]

See above

Did you just say the best way to do "full damage possible" is by lowering your DPS at the start to help a weaker tank keep hate? Can you not see the contradiction?

[Ooshima]

Why not use quelling strikes and raging strikes from the start? I don't think that will create hate issues for tanks.

[TitanACU]

Did you just say the best way to do "full damage possible" is by lowering your DPS at the start to help a weaker tank keep hate? Can you not see the contradiction?

So you think that 2 moves in the beginning is less DPS than holding back the entire fight? The method above is actually recommended by some of the best BLMs out there. Unless you know your tank, then its advised to use it or you will be nerfing yourself. Keep in mind that this method is intended for ppl without quelling strikes or for when its on CD. (Which is why i replied to a specific person who said Quelling Strikes was essential.....)

[Ooshima]

So you think that 2 moves in the beginning is less DPS than holding back the entire fight? The method above is actually recommended by some of the best BLMs out there. Unless you know your tank, then its advised to use it or you will be nerfing yourself. Keep in mind that this method is intended for ppl without quelling strikes or for when its on CD. (Which is why i replied to a specific person who said Quelling Strikes was essential.....)

BLM without Quelling Strikes is bad imo lol.