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    Hitokirinomad's Avatar
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    Vyctoria Elizabeth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalou View Post
    And yes, War 2.0 was meant to be reactive, because it was centered around using IB to recover from a big blow, and using abilities like Vengeance and Berserk to finish a 5 stack faster in order to recover (which implied some little management). Thrill of Battle aside, warrior had no proactive CD to pop to anticipate incoming blows and ToB is double-edged because it can also be used to recover.
    Now you've lost me. Foresight, Featherfoot, Vengeance, Berserk are all (even in 2.0) proactive skills. You weren't using them to counter something the enemy HAD done, you used it ahead of time. I already said ToB could be proactive or reactive. Inner Beast is one skill that's not even Warrior exclusive(big hit + self heal? hrm...Life Surge). The only thing exclusive to Warrior is Wrath.

    I'm not even sure why you continue to say if IB and SC were cooldowns nothing would change, because right now, IB and SC aren't on 20 sec cooldowns. It's an either/or situation, with Unchained in the mix. How would NOT having to make that choice of what to spend stacks on not fundamentally change the nature of the class? Because you still use Butcher'S Block?
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    Nalou's Avatar
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    Oulan Bator
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitokirinomad View Post
    Foresight, Featherfoot, Vengeance, Berserk are all (even in 2.0) proactive skills.
    Yes, but defensively speaking they are (were) really weak. You don't pop Foresight to mitigate a table flip or a Spaceship crash.


    Quote Originally Posted by Skull_Angel View Post
    How is managing Wrath not WAR's playstyle?
    Well if you call this "managing" then it's probably better if we quit this discussion because we'll never agree.
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    Leon Solitario
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalou View Post
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    I'm not sure what you're motioning at with your reply to Hitokirinomad; (unless you were geared out in 2.0) Inner Beast was a very weak ability as well, it required you to use Berserk and/or RNG (critical) to be a decent reactive self-heal. Yes, WAR's native abilities were (and Foresight and Bloodbath arguably still are) weak as well, but they were still part of the tool set.

    Without properly "managing" your Wrath you could(2.0)/can(2.1) not properly utilize the strong abilities attached to it. Full Wrath isn't magically there when you need it, the enemy doesn't give it to you before it decides to use it's tank wrecking ability, you need to make sure it is available when it's needed; this has always been the core of WAR in ARR.
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