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    Quote Originally Posted by JonBigwood View Post
    I didn't know that. Bad news for me :-)
    Gotta read them traits. It's the only thing I want that GLD/PLD have.
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    Perhaps I skipped over this when I was reading through the guide, but what's the best way to allocate our bonus stats? I guess I'm still stuck in the 2.0 mindset of people arguing over STR vs VIT, but has anything definitive been discovered? If not, I think I'll stick with my +30 STR for the additional damage, enmity, and HP regen from Bloodbath, Inner Beast, and Storm's Path. ...then again, the farthest my tank has gotten is Garuda HM, so I don't know if the additional 30 VIT is particularly necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteltain View Post
    Perhaps I skipped over this when I was reading through the guide, but what's the best way to allocate our bonus stats? I guess I'm still stuck in the 2.0 mindset of people arguing over STR vs VIT, but has anything definitive been discovered? If not, I think I'll stick with my +30 STR for the additional damage, enmity, and HP regen from Bloodbath, Inner Beast, and Storm's Path. ...then again, the farthest my tank has gotten is Garuda HM, so I don't know if the additional 30 VIT is particularly necessary.
    Here ya go:
    Quote Originally Posted by Paikis View Post
    STR vs VIT, gearing and minor stats.
    Previous to 2.1, there was much heated debate on the merits of the Gryphonskin set with tanking melds versus just straight up VIT heavy ilevel 90 gear. I was a proponent of the Gryphonskin set and successfully used them to tank everything except Twintania (which you need the extra health for because of Death Sentence). While you had less actual health, you had more mitigation (STR and DEX increases parry) and larger self healing, as well as extra enmity generation and damage. The trade off was well worth it in my (and others') opinion. With 2.1 however, and the large reduction in healing from Inner Beast, the argument is over. 30 Points in VIT is now the only correct choice. Threat generation went from comfortable to laughable and while tank damage is still relevant, the healing provided by the extra damage was cut drastically. As such, if you're tanking, you want the highest ilevel VIT heavy pieces you can get while still maintaining enough accuracy to hit things. You will still want a set of Gryphonskin, but this will only be used on content that you vastly outgear, or if you're going to be off tanking and not taking any large amounts of damage. You can safely skip this set if you wish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteltain View Post
    Perhaps I skipped over this when I was reading through the guide, but what's the best way to allocate our bonus stats? I guess I'm still stuck in the 2.0 mindset of people arguing over STR vs VIT, but has anything definitive been discovered? If not, I think I'll stick with my +30 STR for the additional damage, enmity, and HP regen from Bloodbath, Inner Beast, and Storm's Path. ...then again, the farthest my tank has gotten is Garuda HM, so I don't know if the additional 30 VIT is particularly necessary.
    Sorry but your Defiance tooltip states that it REDUCES DAMAGE and INCREASES HP by 25%, and then some people choose damage over HP.
    Like, srsly u guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megido View Post
    Sorry but your Defiance tooltip states that it REDUCES DAMAGE and INCREASES HP by 25%, and then some people choose damage over HP.
    Like, srsly u guys.
    This was a valid tactic in 2.0. As Mysteltain said, it increases your self-healing, as well as helping with agro and parry reduction. The 45 STR from a set of Gryphonskin was about 15% extra damage (and thus healing) as well as at least 1% parry. Well worth the loss of ~400HP at the time.
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    Thanks Paikis! I guess I must've skipped over that one sentence ("30 Points in VIT is now the only correct choice."), because I even went back and reread that section a second time before I posted my question. I guess I was just focused on the gear you mentioned than the bonus stats.

    I'll be honest, though, seeing some of my crits during Inner Beast makes me wish we still had the 300% heal. Ah well, I've got the seals saved up for a stat reset, and I doubt I'll be looking back afterwards.
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    It's in the guide. Vit all the way. It's like the fifth post on the front page and even bolded for easy notice. It says Vit vs Str.
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    I'm quite certain that nobody cares, but I'm quitting.

    Anyone who wishes to copy+paste this guide to continue it is more than welcome to. I do ask that you give credit where appropriate and make sure no one else has made a copy before you though, as we don't need 17 copies.

    Thanks guys, it was fun while it lasted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paikis View Post
    I'm quite certain that nobody cares, but I'm quitting.

    Anyone who wishes to copy+paste this guide to continue it is more than welcome to. I do ask that you give credit where appropriate and make sure no one else has made a copy before you though, as we don't need 17 copies.

    Thanks guys, it was fun while it lasted.
    I'm surprised Kitru hasn't done it yet. I know they had a numbers thread pre 2.1, but generally damn good advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paikis View Post
    I'm quite certain that nobody cares, but I'm quitting.

    Anyone who wishes to copy+paste this guide to continue it is more than welcome to. I do ask that you give credit where appropriate and make sure no one else has made a copy before you though, as we don't need 17 copies.

    Thanks guys, it was fun while it lasted.
    Why would the fire that made you write this guide extinguish within a month?
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