There shouldn't be a Myth cap because.....

[ApolloGenX]

Actually. upon release WoW only had 1 raid zone, and that was what? BWL? Or was it UBRS? I forget, but from a friend who did play it at release, it wasn't exactly pretty, and it took them a fair bit of time to truly get their shit together.

People just expect new games to have as much content at release as older games currently do.

LBRS. UBRS. Strat. Scholo.

Not the same caliber of raid that came later, but we definitely raided all of those zones for our stupid armor sets.... so much farming....

I don't expect the game to have the same amount as older games... I expect a decent amount, since there were legacy level 50 characters on day 1.

[ninesunz]

SE should have made the relic armor obtainable through quest line with epic battles. The way it is now seems so disconnected to the game, just a grind and get ilvl90...

This way it doesn't stop ppl from getting the gear they want, but through long quest and battles it doesn't give players insta gear (CoP type quest line? lol)

[ApolloGenX]

Yeah, it's really kind of strange- mindlessly grind easy small group dungeons for tokens to buy class specific raid gear. What?

-Oh no, it's not as strange as it sounds- you are capped, so you can only grind so many mindless dungeons for tokens a week... that way it takes a really long time.

OH! that makes more sense. So people NOT raiding will be the ones that take forever to get this gear- so it is really not helpful for getting geared up to raid....even though it's raid gear... GREAT!

[Rex]

I don't think that hardcore players should be held back just because of someone that has to work all week and isn't even going to hit the cap anyways.

Easy there...I work 8:30-5:00 Monday-Friday and I cap every week.

Yes, I know that eliminating the cap would create a large group of i90 people running around not knowing their job, but that is what FCs, vote kicking, and Party Finder are for. Eliminate the trash players and find good ones.

...I can't believe you just said that. You couldn't be farther from the truth. That would 100% be abuse of the vote kick system. And completely punishable. That is NOT what it is there for. It is there for 4 reasons outlined when you start the vote kick: Harassment, AFK, Offline, and one other thing I can't remember off the top of my head...which is certainly not "kick the new / trash player so that I can find a good one and get what 'I' need because this is about me." If you vote kick anyone wrongly...all they have to do is report you.

Read Hvinire's post on this.

[ScummyGuy]

Easy there...I work 8:30-5:00 Monday-Friday and I cap every week.


...I can't believe you just said that. You couldn't be farther from the truth. That would 100% be abuse of the vote kick system. And completely punishable. That is NOT what it is there for. It is there for 4 reasons outlined when you start the vote kick: Harassment, AFK, Offline, and one other thing I can't remember off the top of my head...which is certainly not "kick the new / trash player so that I can find a good one and get what 'I' need because this is about me." If you vote kick anyone wrongly...all they have to do is report you.

Read Hvinire's post on this.

If you are constantly fail an instance, after people have given you advice, pointers, or have been teaching you a fight, then I view it as harassment. You are wasting my time if you can't learn your job.

[ApolloGenX]

If you are constantly fail an instance, after people have given you advice, pointers, or have been teaching you a fight, then I view it as harassment. You are wasting my time if you can't learn your job.

I would contend you are wasting your time playing a video game no matter what.

[Rex]

If you are constantly fail an instance, after people have given you advice, pointers, or have been teaching you a fight, then I view it as harassment. You are wasting my time if you can't learn your job.

Don't say "you" like I'm the one that "wasted your time."

It doesn't matter how you VIEW it. That isn't harassment. And regardless of what you think of it, It's still a punishable act. It's an MMO and it's not all about YOU.

You are the epitome of why Yoshi-P & team were hesitant to have a kick feature to begin with. Because they knew it'd be abused.

[ScummyGuy]

Don\\'t say "you" like I\\'m the one that "wasted your time."

It doesn\\'t matter how you VIEW it. That isn\\'t harassment. And regardless of what you think of it, It\\'s still a punishable act. It\\'s an MMO and it\\'s not all about YOU.

You are the epitome of why Yoshi-P & team were hesitant to have a kick feature to begin with. Because they knew it\\'d be abused.

Are you offended by me using "you" because you have been kicked for failing?

It is about ME. I pay just like everyone else so I will play the way I want to. So if you join MY Party Finder when it says know the fight and you don't know it, even after we try to teach you, then you are harassing my party.

[ApolloGenX]

Yeah.. hitting cap by grinding mindless dungeons isn't hardcore. At all.

People are really scraping the bottom of the barrel for excuses to claim to be hardcore nowadays...

^ To the post above - don't waste your time

1. They don't seem to work
2. They think tomes are hardcore... or that hardcore gamer is a good thing
3. They call other players trash

*They are a kid. Stop wasting time arguing with an online kid.

[Minigae]

Does it really matter? I mean if they removed the cap most of us would be out of crap to do in a few weeks anyway. There needs to be more to do period and the problem with that is there isn't much reward beyond myth items a couple items in coil(few more depending on class) and absolutely nothing from the new content.

Raids can not get all their members to show up on time or at all and that is because there is almost no incentive to raid except to gear up alts and lets face it after a couple classes are geared the rest is about as useful as FC housing.