I'm sure it has been said many time before.... but...

[Billie21]

I agree that CM and Prae's CS are not very well handled.


When I did them the first time, we (other first timers and I) said so right away. We intended to watch CS, and the rest of the group was cool with it.
They didn't wait for us during most CS, but they didn't grief us for watching either. We didn't get locked out of boss fights, thankfully, just missed basically all the action in between bosses.

Prae's last boss was the worst disapointment for me. By the time the CS introducing him ended, the group was shouting for LB, and then boss was dead. I missed the whole fight, and right on to the next CS.

Even though the fight itself wasn't that interesting, it's more the whole dynamic that was damaged by this. Those last two dungeons are epic when doing them in the main quest. The CS are part of it. (those saying "you can watch CS in inns" don't get it, I could also watch CS on youtube, I wouldn't be paying a sub if the point was just to watch CS without any action).


I can't resent people who won't wait for those watching CS, they can move on, just like other people can watch CS if they want to, nothing to do about it (as long as they don't grief/kick those watching CS, they can play as they wish, too).

I really wish fights could not start as long as some people were still in CS (like at the start of dungeons).
An option "skip all CS" in DF for those wanting a SR would be apreciated as well.

[OPneedNerfs]

You're not a special snowflake :'(

[Artemiz]

This thread reminds me of the youtube before Primal fight thread. It's full of people who think it's selfish and elitist if 7 people don't play the game the way 1 person wants them to, it blows my mind. This is a social game, we all pay our sub and what the mob says, goes. If the majority want to watch CS then watch CS, if the majority are happy to carry on then carry on.

Just so you know, on my first time through I skipped the CS so I wouldn't lose concentration and could learn the dungeon but also to not keep the other 7 people waiting. I then watched them at the Inn and enjoyed them, in peace and with a nice outfit on

[Moontide]

Simple fix: Change cutscene skip to a vote which has to be unanimous to do it. Worked fine in Guild Wars. Nobody ever complained about the cutscenes as far as I saw, and I played Guild Wars a lot.

Simple, yet flawed fix: Boss battles can't initiate until everyone is inside the circle. Would work like the simple fix but now everyone would know who's still watching the cutscene. Complaining and votekick abuse would ensue.

Difficult fix: Less cutscenes in dungeons or splilt dungeons to story- and non-story modes.

Impossible: Somehow design party content in a way that patient, friendly and sociable players are the ones who most likely reach the end game.

[00039]

Simple fix: Change cutscene skip to a vote which has to be unanimous to do it. Worked fine in Guild Wars. Nobody ever complained about the cutscenes as far as I saw, and I played Guild Wars a lot.

From what I remembered people always complained about people not skipping cutscenes atleast in the earlier years.

[Moontide]

From what I remembered people always complained about people not skipping cutscenes atleast in the earlier years.

I don't remember a single time when it was a big issue funnily enough, and I played for several years ever since Prophecies was the only campaign to when Eye of the North was released. Guess I got lucky then. Then again the length of the cutscenes on FFXIV is several magnitudes bigger which would lead to at least some whining for sure.

[Jyoeru]

Solution: PIP cut-scenes. Yes. That fixes all the injustice in the game! Even PVP!

[Nihility]

there's actually party finder settings for making a group that wants to watch cut scenes but if you want a full group wanting to watch cut scenes be prepared to wait a LONG time, even most first timers want to skip them

but as far as duty finder goes the only reason people are going to those instances at all is getting bribed with bonus philo to do it by daily roulette. Otherwise there is no reason to go there at all since everything you get from them can be found more quickly elsewhere

[Billie21]

there's actually party finder settings for making a group that wants to watch cut scenes but if you want a full group wanting to watch cut scenes be prepared to wait a LONG time, even most first timers want to skip them

but as far as duty finder goes the only reason people are going to those instances at all is getting bribed with bonus philo to do it by daily roulette. Otherwise there is no reason to go there at all since everything you get from them can be found more quickly elsewhere

There's actually party finder for making a group that wants to farm content or speed running but if you want a full group wanting to speedrun, be prepared to wait a LONG time... Oh wait, no.