I think I have not choice but to leave...

[JayCommon]

The LS I'm in carries 3-4 people through Titan HM at all times, for free. To combat the douchebaggery of selling content for gil in this game. But that's another story.

I am on Goblin server also, and there isn't a 'population' problem. However there is a very large 'elitist' problem. I truly despise being told that I need to watch a video to be allowed into groups for content I'm doing for the first time. Where is the challenge of being told/shown what to do? But a lot of PF groups in server demand it and blatantly say they will vote kick anyone who causes the party to wipe on the first try. I can understand if 6/8 people know a fight and don't want to waste time having someone else learn it, but it gets to the point of "what do you do?". I caved and watched videos of the HM fights in order to help learn the processes. I hated every second of it. I want to figure these things out for myself, but the community doesn't accept bringing along people for them to enjoy themselves through learning. They want their shinies right now. They have every right to do so, however it effectively gates content for players who don't do so or makes them rely on the DF to win fights that PUG's just don't seem capable of doing.

He's probably right with T5 being cleared by 32 different players in Goblin as well. The bigger question, which sheds light on the state of the social aspect of our server, is how many of those FC's are still around? Some of these FC's act like dictatorships, and it's utterly ridiculous. One of my good RL friends from my FC found a static coil group in another FC. (our FC is small, but good players that can't all necessarily log at the same time of day) This FC didn't have a good summoner, and my friend is a good summoner so he became part of their static. Joined their Mumble room and everything. He got upgraded to their "all-star" group because of how good a player he was (or maybe how bad their FC players are idk for sure). The leader of their FC became jealous that an 'outsider' was granted privilege to run turn 4 and help win it before anyone else in the FC won it. My friend was kicked out of the Mumble room and the entire FC disbanded because of this one event. No lie.

I wasn't aware that being part of an FC restricted your actions to only involve fellow FC members. Sorry, but that's big time BS. And unless you want to become member #381 of Reliquary, there isn't much option in our server. There are plenty of good players and even more so, good people in our server. Many of them are being held hostage by bad FC's whom they show loyalty too. Reliq is a good FC and are normally helpful players, but an FC of that size just makes me feel like a pawn that will never really be able to contribute much.

Keltset, my FC is small. You won't be able to farm Primal EX's with us just yet, hell you won't even be able to farm Coil with us just yet. We are finally making our foray into Coil (as a full FC) today, with many first-timers that will be involved. With all of us, this is OK. We are intent on learning the game we want to play it, without being forced to 'watch videos' or 'stick to one godpro-only strat'. We will experiment, we will learn, we will wipe, but most of all we will have fun. Most of us are great people to talk to, have jobs and families. I started the FC with some real life friends and we grew in numbers, and the people that stuck around feel like they are my real life friends too. If this type of FC isn't what your looking for, the friends I have made in Titan Heartbreakers LS are good people too. They carry people through Titan HM for free just so post-relic content isn't gated to people that don't have 400k gil to pay <DARK> for a win. Alot of those guys are in <Toast> FC. Mine is <RAWR!>.

TL;DR There are good FC's out there man. Would hate to see you quit because of the social aspect of the game, but if you are becoming bored then maybe it's for the best that you take a break. Hope you decide to return!!

[Skyhound]

There is really only three/two ways to fix your problem.

Server transfer to a nicer server. My server(Couerl) is populated with really pleasant and skilled people. Almost every random group can one shot Titan HM and are quite polite while doing it.

Start your own FC of like minded people. Yeah, it's effort but it would be worth it. It doesn't even need to be laser, just an 8 person static that logs on when you do.

Keep on trying your luck on DF. Though I will be honest that most end game content cannot be done in DF.

Aside from those solutions, your only choice is to take a break and come back once new content is out.

[Heskett]

Server transfer to a nicer server. My server(Couerl) is populated with really pleasant and skilled people. Almost every random group can one shot Titan HM and are quite polite while doing it.

Sorry, but this is pretty much not true.

[Jubez187]

If Goblin server have population issues.

Not even remotely close.

On topic: I agree that this game works in extremes. If you PUG/DF/PF then you will NEVER win. If you Static/FC you'll pretty much never lose most content. I don't know which route to go, honestly. I'm not gonna run the same dungeon six times a night with my FC, going into each run knowing that we'll never lose. But then again, it gets frustrating when you keep losing in DF. The problem is that in the late game, as you said, 1/8ths of the team could suck and then it's over. In dungeons and earlier content, if your DPS is a little weak you can still do the dungeon (and that's 1/4th of your team). If you don't have 8 up for Titan Heart you're probably done for in any PF/DF/PUG.

[NeoAmon]

Have they fighted with you guys or were they dead the whole fight?

ded from the get go 99% of the time.

[xxalucard]

And unless you want to become member #381 of Reliquary, there isn't much option in our server.

LOL

But on a real note, you said:

I wasn't aware that being part of an FC restricted your actions to only involve fellow FC members.

This is untrue, at least in our FC. A couple of groups have cleared turn 5 with non-FC members before, and still do-- we'd never have some random rule that prevents people from doing that. In fact the second group that cleared T5 was half members from our FC and half members from Dark.

Reliq is a good FC and are normally helpful players, but an FC of that size just makes me feel like a pawn that will never really be able to contribute much.

LOL again.

[indira]

lockouts suck period and if its a one week in a videogame thats stupid.
maybe if they made content that required more then a zerg people would know how play there roles. you have spot on the ground that tell you to move and people just sit there. 1.0 didnt have idiot boxes for AOE and had more lag the ARR and people beat that content and everything was harder & took longer to kill. now SE made the game mindless and people cant beat content. the bottom line is people dont know the fight at all if there always dying nothing in the fight changes, it the same pattern every time.

[Lumiin]

You just gotta find a nice group of people. I've been playing since early access and I JUST NOW like this week, found a group of people that makes it fun. Nope we don't clear everything in one go but the wipes and stuff are still fun.

Have you tried posting on your server forums?

[Subucnimorning]

i really hoped what u said is true

but in EX/T5 1 mistake for any player regardless of job ( DPS , Tank or Healer ) & its over

Not true. You can carry 1 person in each of the EX fights, especially Titan. My first win on Titan EX was with a DPS dead the entire fight. If it was a healer, yeah you can't carry a healer unless you are running 3. There is a video of 1 tank Titan EX out there though.

[Scamperoo]

Sorry but I do most of the carrying. I refuse to spend hours attempting simple content because people cant be bothered to not stand in the bad stuff. And no I don't have trouble finding FCs. I have been an Officer and/or raid leader in every guild in every MMO I have played. I also formed/lead my current coil group which has been farming t1-4 for two months now.

I am sorry but EM primals are not hard and I just don't have the time to watch people make the same stupid mistake 10 times in an hour. I don't like being mean to people and I would rather just not play with people that keep up then have to explain to them they are bad and kick them out.

Well with this and the comment," I'm thinking of making my own FC and kicking anyone who doesn't measure up." I wonder what one has to do to earn the title vile in your opinion....I just hate to think.