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  1. #21
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    BlueMage's Avatar
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    Raine Jaeger
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Sounds like the real problem is the OP's social skills.
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  2. #22
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    NeoAmon's Avatar
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    Sparda Amon
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Video, or I'll die laughing at the stupidity of that post.
    No need, we used to sell it carrying 3 buyers at the same time. I'm certain it can be done with 4 geared players carrying 4 others.
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  3. #23
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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post
    EM is a big jump in difficulty... that doesn't mean I think they are hard. It just means the content before that is super easy. Titan HM can be beaten with 4 people.
    Old content being done by over geared people becomes easier to meet the minimum damage and healing.

    Can I be judging here?
    Seems like you look down upon people of lower skill than you, but gets offended when done the same (by those "elitists").

    I honestly can't understand people who say everything in this game is easy... either they're lying, or I am beyond bad, as I find everything after Garuda HM hard.
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  4. #24
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoAmon View Post
    No need, we used to sell it carrying 3- buyers at the same time.
    After Heart, sure. You can do it with a Tank and Healer with no DPS alive. But good luck dropping heart with at best, 2 DPS. In your carry runs, they're still present and dealing damage. Most can live through Heart long enough to get it dead, they can die freely after that.
    My post was directed at the idea that you can do Titan with *just* 4 players in party. I have no doubt a solid core could 3 man Titan from end of Heart phase to death. Seen it done myself plenty of times.
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  5. 01-11-2014 06:35 PM

  6. #25
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    Crimson-Falcon's Avatar
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    Veera Aurora
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    Omega
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post
    In their current forms T5/titan EM can't be beat with more than one or two bad players and even then it depends on what their role is and everyone else in the group must be very good to pull it off.Taking 3+ people through those fights if they are average skill level is pretty much impossible.
    i really hoped what u said is true

    but in EX/T5 1 mistake for any player regardless of job ( DPS , Tank or Healer ) & its over
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  7. #26
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    Kyrs Isley
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    Durandal
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Video, or I'll die laughing at the stupidity of that post.
    It's been done. Don't be so sure before you search for it.
    Titan 4 men
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    Last edited by KyrsIsley; 01-11-2014 at 07:00 PM.

  8. #27
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    Heat's Avatar
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    Heat Daour
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 60
    Having the same issue, can’t find a group to do EM with or coil T4&5, DF/PF is the same thing, now I log in on Monday cap Myth in 2 days, reputation quests, one run for CT and that’s it, the rest of the days I’m camping DF for EM with no luck.
    Starting to give up.
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  9. #28
    Player Rochetm's Avatar
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    Kicking Wolf
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    Old content being done by over geared people becomes easier to meet the minimum damage and healing.

    Can I be judging here?
    Seems like you look down upon people of lower skill than you, but gets offended when done the same (by those "elitists").

    I honestly can't understand people who say everything in this game is easy... either they're lying, or I am beyond bad, as I find everything after Garuda HM hard.
    Yes those people are over gearing content... however that content is also very forgiving. T5/EMs not so much. Even if you out gear it one or two people screwing up will prevent you from completing it. i90 is already over gearing EMs.

    I don't look down on people of lower skill than myself... and I refuse to play with those elitists because of how they treat others. Not really sure where you got all that from. And yes the majority of the game is really easy for some of us and while some are probably lying or not aware of how bad they are most of us are not lying about it.

    That does not make you bad if you have a hard time with Titan HM or later content. That makes you average and that is exactly what most of the people playing every game is... average. Bad would be standing in the fire every single attempt. EDIT: Sorry this is not correct. Average would be standing in the fire every single attempt. If you are not doing than then you are at least a little above average.

    I am trying to find a group of likable people that is also a group of above average players. For whatever reason the majority of above average players also end up being grouped with the above average dbags. This isn't abnormal either. Every game is like this.. FPS, MMO or whatever. This usually isn't an issue. I choose to hang out with the fun people I find and do my best to make up for any skill gap issues. FPS games that can be an issue but in MMOs I am normally happy with where I am.
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    Last edited by Rochetm; 01-11-2014 at 07:09 PM.

  10. #29
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoAmon View Post
    No need, we used to sell it carrying 3 buyers at the same time. I'm certain it can be done with 4 geared players carrying 4 others.
    Have they fighted with you guys or were they dead the whole fight?
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  11. #30
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    Yslera Ravshana
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    Cactuar
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    I think I see where the OP is coming from. I also like to pug and help players who are struggling. That's hard to do when fights require every party member to be good. That's an unreasonable expectation for pugs.

    2.1 brought some new DF content that is too hard for pugs. EMs are miserable for pugs, and Ultima HM is also too hard. That level of difficulty should be reserved for FCs and should not be on DF.

    2.1 also brought CT, which is puggable, and Mog and Pharos, which are borderline but a bit too hard. Copperbell and Haukke are close to ok. DR added good pug opportunities. PF is great for finding players with similar goals but doesn't help with content that is too difficult for the average player.

    So ... 2.1 added puggable content. It also added some fights to DF that are too difficult. Those fights should either be removed from DF or tuned so that they're fun for pugs. Pugs max out on what they can do, and 2.1 overshot on DF difficulty.
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