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  1. #31
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    dthmchnek's Avatar
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    Deathra Machinja
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    Leviathan
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    Fisher Lv 48
    The latency of the game is probably not entirely Squares fault... I am pretty sure they have invested time and money into trying to make the game playable using the internet as possible...

    Your connection can be slowed down by wireless routers that can get caught up with other wireless devices, Anti-viruses, your Internet service provider...

    Square can't really tweak that to meet everyone's needs about latency because it is different for everyone.

    I get disconnected when Im reading some text, or mid-fight, and I am pretty sure its on my end. My internet is decent and I can dodge indicators the majority of the time when I am focusing on what I am actually doing...
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  2. #32
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    Mintyfresh's Avatar
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    Gengis Kharnage
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by dthmchnek View Post
    The latency of the.. what I am actually doing...
    Since you brought this up, I'll ask you a very very simple question.
    a) Should we, as consumers, find it acceptable to pay for a 3rd party software application just to deal with this latency issues that arises with this game?
    b) Should a company, whose primary product is SOFTWARE, not incorporate some fault tolerance so that the issues in point (a) are automatically dealt with to some extent?

    Or am I expecting too much?

    Cheers-
    Minty
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  3. #33
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    Eremes Beoulve
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    Ultros
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Mintyfresh View Post
    I'm not asking them to make the encounter easier per say. I'm ok if we have to incur an even greater penalty if we stand in plumes for example.
    But give people more control by maybe extending the time it takes for a plume to explode by 1 second.
    Things of that sort.
    So are you asking for the fight to be easier or not? I'm a bit confused because making the plumes do more damage but slower would still make things a lot easier.
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  4. #34
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    Gengis Kharnage
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Eremes View Post
    So are you asking for the fight to be easier or not? I'm a bit confused because making the plumes do more damage but slower would still make things a lot easier.
    I'm asking for a rebalance of selected mechanics so people are not penalized to a degree that they are, especially when you factor in variables that I have listed multiple times.
    Is it that hard to understand that after 4 pages of discussion?

    Even though I don't want to answer your question because it's seems like your question is so bloody obtuse, I'll go ahead and say the following:
    Will it have an impact on the fight, sure.
    Will it penalize people as severely for issues with a bit of lag/reflexs etc....probably not, but will people who want to stand in plumes still die, yes, they will die to plumes, they will die to landslides and they will die to rocks exploding in their faces, which they should. (O,o)
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  5. #35
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    Lunavi's Avatar
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    Luna Nattvind
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    No please, this filtration is needed. It helps to keep people who are not ready out of big boy content. Try to get into an active FC who is willing to help you. If they do not want to help with Titan HM and you need it look for an FC ready to help you with titan HM. Simple as that. Or you can pay the 100-200k needed for it. Gil is easy to get nowadays anyway.
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  6. #36
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    Aura_Shurifon's Avatar
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    Aura Shurifon
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 98
    I'd like to talk about all the "pre-emptive move" people talk about...
    I know the fight, I know the skill rotation, I have a paper in front of me and a macro to help me if necessary. But once every minute, I have lag spike and I need to move constantly for 2 to 3s to be sure not to get hit by plumes. Unfortunatelly, I'm a healer and if I move for this long, I'll be alive for sure but the tank may die because of me being late for healing...
    I'm far from being the best healer, but lag IS too much punishing in this fight and that is even worst for healer...
    DPS (especially bard) have it easy in this fight because they can pospone their attack to dodge plume as much as they want. The true hard step for them is the Heart phase.
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  7. #37
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    Gengis Kharnage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunavi View Post
    No please, this filtration is needed. It helps to keep people who are not ready out of big boy content. Try to get into an active FC who is willing to help you. If they do not want to help with Titan HM and you need it look for an FC ready to help you with titan HM. Simple as that. Or you can pay the 100-200k needed for it. Gil is easy to get nowadays anyway.
    That's a totally valid opinion. It might differ from mine, but very valid.
    Thank you for that.
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  8. #38
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    Index Labyrinthya
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    IM on my 5th relic and this is still the worst fight ever.
    Titan's WoEs has latency issues and that wipes the best of players out too.
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  9. #39
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    Melinia Alieth
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I think my "favorite" instance of Titan latency was when I saw him land after his first jump... but not jump. Strangest thing I've ever seen.

    Unfortunately, it also guaranteed that he squashed me because I didn't have enough time to run and hide.
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  10. #40
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    Eremes Beoulve
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    Ultros
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Mintyfresh View Post
    *snip*
    My question merely pointed out a contradiction in your post, having a 1 shot mechanics that you can see coming from a mile away is not hard whatsoever. The amount of time you have to react to mechanics is what makes the fight difficult. Will the suggestions you made help people with latency/reflex issues? Yes, but it'll also make things less challenging for players that are not experiencing any problems. Should SE dumb down content just so people with latency/reflex issues can complete it? It's not like latency makes it impossible. I have a friend from Australia that plays with 200-400ms and he dodged mechanics fine by running pre-emptively. Titan HM unlocks an ilvl90 weapon that the majority of the end game players are still using today. I do not see the difficulty of the fight as being unreasonable.
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