Game Promotes Stagnation and Terrible Play

[Archona]

FATEs
While the dungeons/hests/trials provide a great learning curve to anyone new to MMOs, sadly, they are mostly optional. At launch, FATEing was very feasible and it allowed people to reach level cap without learning a lick about playing their class correctly. FATEs are not as viable to level with now, but the problem still remains. It is evident in low level dungeons where people fail at basic things like dodging Landslide on Normal Titan or removing Doom from Temple of Sarn's first boss. Instead of teaching new players how to remove Doom, I see things like "stand on the hill to ignore the mechanic".

Commendations
The commendation system just promotes people to stay quiet in runs. If you criticize someone's play, there goes your commendation. Even if someone can obviously improve their rotation and shorten run times, most of the time they simply do not care what others have to say about their playstyle. I've seen too many BLM who insist on staying full MP or Bards who think their DOTs are not worth using. Even times where I point out that someone can improve themselves, I get responses like "Don't worry about how others play" (edit: and no, I'm not a huge jerkface about it, I'm usually quite calm and clear about things). The commendation system is a waste right now, because instead of teaching new players how to improve, it is a simple "say hi in the beginning and then stay quiet for whole run" thing instead. (Or just spam guildhest until you get your mount).

Duty Roulette
Instead of using low level dungeon/trials as a place to learn, you simply get teamed up with players with multiple 50s and full gear on. This skews their perception of the game and really does no one any favors. Low level duty roulette is primarily Sastasha <-> Halatali. You rarely get a dungeon above that and when you do there is a good chance of failure. The guildhests are simply being farmed for Commendations by geared players, and in turn the new players learn very little or nothing.

Exploits
Pulling Chimera up the hill pretty much negates the entire difficulty of the fight. Allowing players to ignore all abilities in Turn 2 ADS is a step in the wrong direction. You have a crowd of players who need to cheat their way through the game before reaching walls like Titan HM/XM, and then they get frustrated and quit, blaming things like 'latency' instead of personal error. Or, they'll resort to buying runs from good players and in turn never improve themselves.

So the next time you come across an awful player in the endgame, think about these factors. Yes, bad players exist in every game, but the fact is that this game will constantly reward you for being mediocre. Echo buff even allows bad players to finish quests that normally would require class rotation knowledge. People don't want to improve and instead demand the game gets nerfed down to their level. WP/AK were great instances before. Now they are a joke. I'd hate to see all the other dungeons reduced to such triviality.

edit: 1000 character limit

[RowanLauron]

I don't understand......what's the problem?

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Nevermind be was slow at editing. Meh, I agree and don't agree. I'm just enjoying he game for what it's worth.

[Casca_Longinus]

also promotes forums with topics that offer no explanation..

[Miiu]

Care to elaborate?

[Mergadeth]

sigh...I'm going to regret this but....care to elaborate on why instead of just throwing up the names of things?

[Imapooonu]

FATEs

Commendations

Duty Roulette

Fates: maybe

Commendations....what?

Duty Roulette.....what?

[Welsper59]

Stagnation is the name of the genre. You either like it, or you don't. If you don't, you're likely going to hate your time on (nearly) every MMORPG sooner or later. Unlike the clueless, the rest of us that know this will likely just get bored and move on without any stress/anger.

[Xairos]

Stagnation is the name of the genre. You either like it, or you don't. If you don't, you're likely going to hate your time on (nearly) every MMORPG sooner or later. Unlike the clueless, the rest of us that know this will likely just get bored and move on without any stress/anger.

This. this is one of the only gaming genres that work out kinks within its first few years after being released. You can NEVER apply non-mmo genre stylings to an mmo. Example: Compelling storyline. FFXIV and most other mmos feel like a 90s RPG. Save the world you who runs around with other people who are much more exceptional than the average NPC. All mmos want, at the end of the day, is to keep you playing weeks on end. I know this fact and don't get too hurt about how long (or short) it takes to level a job.

Anecdote: I just leveled MNK to 50 post 2.1 and the amount of people who knowingly stick to fates to level as opposed to running dungeons is nauseating. Dungeons are much, much, better now.

Exploits: Players will always try to find the short point between two objectives. How do you think Fate-leveling became a thing? The Devs are faced with a problem. Do they roll back all the gear achieved by the supposed exploit or do the change it and cut off all those who come after us and want to down a fate? As for ADS i don't know about that exploit but i image they could change it before the masses get to running coil regularly.

[HeavensHell]

Stagnation is the name of the genre. You either like it, or you don't. If you don't, you're likely going to hate your time on (nearly) every MMORPG sooner or later. Unlike the clueless, the rest of us that know this will likely just get bored and move on without any stress/anger.

Pretty much this, you will deal with this in any mmorpg on the market in some form or another because the genre as a whole now doesn't offer much in the way of adding new game changing features and I'm not saying developers can't but when you look at the big picture its going to be a long time before you see something radically new in this genre.

[SummonerSenah]

If you're a tank with instant queue or a healer, dungeons are the way to go. DPS wait times to get in dungeons still make Fates more appealing for leveling.