Pally cross class

[jyates1007]

So I'm a 50 Pally looking to (hardcore) my tank!What's the best cross class skills to get!! Im having a blast lvling up marauder to see how the other half lives! So please let me know best for dungeons and PVP!! Thanks!

[Makarrov]

Stoneskin should be part of every pld toolkit for sure. It's saved me more times than I can count. Since it's based on a percentage of your max hp it only gets better as you get more gear.

[Roffel]

I run stoneskin foresight bloodbath mercy stroke and the last I w/e u want. The 1st 4 are best for class and idk any other pld that don't have them

[SirTaint]

Stoneskin, Foresight, Mercy Stroke, Bloodbath

After that it doesn't really matter: Protect, Raise

[Ehayte]

1. Stoneskin - Far and away the absolutely most useful PLD cross class hands down. You can help healers when DPS are taking damage, you can drain your entire mana pool to give yourself a CD-like ability to mitigate damage by self casting, you can assist in recovery, you can cast it on your WAR friends for huge amounts of mitigation while OTing, etc. It is amazing and adds a nice little layer of depth to PLD.
2. Foresight - Another defensive CD, no matter how crappy it is, I usually pop with along with Awareness/Bulwark to combine those 3 into a passable CD (I know Bulwark is OK by itself, but those 3 together make using them a little more impactful)
3. Bloodbath - I use this on CD hooked into my FoF/Flast Blade macro. Nice to start a fight with some self-overhealing and a miniscule amount of mitigation.
4. Cure - I like having cure in my pocket for silly things like if I am standing somewhere I shouldn't be and take DoT dmg, or something like CT when I am doing a tower and taking damage from the AE.
5. Mercy Stroke/Protect - We're getting to the bottom of the barrel here. Mercy stroke OK for extra DPS, and when you actually get the last hit in and get a 1k+ heal it feel pretty good! Protect I have used rarely, in using protect on the party when we have more than 1 member who has died and been raised during a tough fight.

There are all my personal opinions, been through T4 in coil with my PLD.

[jyates1007]

So stoneskin even though it wont be nearly as effective as the mage casting it..... will it??

[krazyrs]

its good for when the mage cant keep it up all the time
say titan he turns to landslide, u can ss self to take the rock buster then CD for mountain buster

if im pld ot at ultima i can throw it on the mt as well, help the healers out

more places to use it just some ex.

[Kitru]

So stoneskin even though it wont be nearly as effective as the mage casting it..... will it??

It'll be the same effectiveness as a SCH casting it. The value of Stoneskin is based upon your max hp, and WHM only gets a stronger Stoneskin because of a trait that beefs it up to 18%. What's important to remember is that most healers aren't going to bother casting Stoneskin on you while you're in combat. It's just not cost or cast time effective. For a PLD, on the other hand, because Cure is so terrible, Stoneskin ends up being the most efficient spell for cast time and cost purposes.

As such, PLD has 2 reasons to use Stoneskin: it's just as effective as a SCH using it *and* it's more efficient for them to combat cast it than it is for a healer.

[Ehayte]

^^^^ That, succinct and correct.

[IndigoHawk]

Stoneskin is also great if you're OT and the MT is in danger or healers need to patch up other people. You can help prop the MT up with a Stoneskin (and yourself if needed) and ease a little pressure off the healers.