Please show some respect.

[Kaiser_Rage]

We saw what happened to WoW when they started to cater to "new audiences"...6 million subscribers lost.

End of discussion

[Ri_ri]

We saw what happened to WoW when they started to cater to "new audiences"...6 million subscribers lost.

WoW didn't lose 6 million subscribers.

[XNihili]

We saw what happened to WoW when they started to cater to "new audiences"...6 million subscribers lost.

But there are not 6 million of hardcore gamers.
Games intended for hardcore gamers don't usually even break the million seller.

[Tupsi]

But there are not 6 million of hardcore gamers.
Games intended for hardcore gamers don't usually even break the million seller.

You must be new to MMORPGs. "Hardcore" MMOs thrived up until the genre became more mainstream - Almost every MMO prior to 2005 was 'hardcore' in some sense.

[Yallaid]

From the polygon article -

"It's important to listen to fans about what's important to them, but it's equally important to listen to people who are not currently gamers about why they aren't playing... *snip* But to cater to those desires without thinking about how to bring new audiences in and make them comfortable will ultimately result in a stagnant and money-losing industry.

Very true.

I'd just like to say, and this is to the author of the Polygon article not the poster who quoted it, this is such an awful line of thinking, for any creative industry. Why on earth would you want to listen to the voices of people who don't want to play your game over those who appreciate it and want it to be improved.

If catering to your already existing audience creates a stagnant and money losing (another horrible metric for a creative product) industry, catering to a phantom audience of potential players just creates an industry that pleases no one.

[Ashira]

People come to forums because they have an issue with something or there is something bothering them. Perhaps they have ideas on how to improve something or perhaps they're frustrated with the product they're paying for; either way, they come to the forums to vent. It's what forums are here for.

The truth is, not many people want to post on a daily basis how much fun they're having. It would soon become boring and repetitive.

These developers are doing alright. They're working in an industry that a lot of people here would love to work in and they're also working for one of the best gaming companies. They're paid to do something that a lot of people here would do for free, I'm sure they can handle a bit of forum whining.

[Amberion]

So... anyone remember Yoshis response to warriors being to weak, or the lag issue?

Sure, it wasn't "you sux, go die!". But it wasn't really respectful either.

[MeiUshu]

The thing is, you dont have to say anything about what is good, it runs as it should. What gets to people and therefore gives out a bad image as to being always negative is that the only way we have or one of the few ways we have to say when something is not working right are the Forums. Not only to inform us all, but also to let the progameurs/owners of the game know that something is not right. In here, they get the full pool of what is wrong. They dont need to know what works but they do need to know what is not working.

Disrespect is somethign that you cant control, not everybody has the same understanding on what is respectufl and isnt. Backgrounds are also not all the same therefore we do not think all the same, respect is also do accept others for what they are, respect is earned you know, is not something that comes automatically.

Just me though

Mei

[coffeepotz]

Don't worry OP, I agree with you.

I always thought game forums were mainly a place for the community to have discussions and be social with one another. These days the forums are just a cesspool of disrespect, childish trolling, and verbally abusive complaints.

I am not saying not to voice your dissatisfaction. Just make an attempt to be professional about it.

[Sigvaldus]

What is the point of this thread, there is such a thing as constructive critism