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    For new dungeons/raids in 2.2 and beyond.

    SE should really look how they approach achievements in this game. Currently, the achievements we have are, for the most part, time sinks. What they haven't tapped into are the achievements that make old content stay current.

    Once any dungeon or raid is on farm, it becomes a boring(unless the encounters themselves are truely innovative, creative, and fun) job to clear at the start of every reset. What I've experienced in other MMOs are the achievements that keep that farm content current and fun make farm content bearable. These achievements give rewards for that category, not unlike what we've seen with some achievements here, once you complete them. The rewards for these achievements can be something as small as a title, or something as grand as a mount or a trophy to put in your house. In my post-edit, I'll give examples of achievements that take current encounters to a new level(some of which is already being done).

    Binding Coil of Bahamut
    Turn 1
    -Kill Caduceus without feeding any slugs.
    -Kill Caduceus with 8 stacks of his empowered buff(I forget the name).
    -Kill Caduceus after having fed him 5 slugs.

    Turn 2
    -Kill ADS after killing all of his support ADS.
    -On separate occasions, kill ADS with each of buffs/debuffs.
    -Kill ADS within 5 clicks from the start.

    Turn 3
    -Complete Turn 3 in under 10 minutes(I've never actually timed it so could be drastically shorter... maybe even 3 minutes)

    Turn 4
    -Complete Turn 4 after having each Dreadnaught consume 4 spiders.
    -(Assuming the encounter is completed after all dreadnaughts are dead)On separate occasions, complete turn 4 while leaving one each of the following remaining after all dreadnaughts are dead.
    -Complete Turn 4 without the enrage pulse going off.

    Turn 5(I'm sure there are many that could really push either healing or dps to a whole new level, but I myself am not as experienced on this fight)
    -Complete Turn 5 after everyone successfully dodging Divebomb.
    -Complete Turn 5 after only 2 conflagrations.

    **After having completed all said achievements, you would reward the conqueror item, something like an ADS mount or Twintania model mount.**

    Crystal Tower(These achievements would be easier)

    Bone Dragon
    -Defeat Bone Dragon without any skeletons reaching him.
    -Defeat Bone dragon after 10 skeletons have reached him.

    Thanatos
    -Defeat Thanatos with all magical pots remaining.
    -Defeat Thanatos after only 3 ghost cycles.

    King Behemoth
    -Defeat King Behemoth after everyone has successfully dodged Ecliptic Meteor
    -Defeat King Behemoth without any bombs, towers, or giants destroying a comet.

    Acheron
    -Defeat Acheron after everyone avoiding "everything"(sounds a lot harder than you think with pugs)
    -Defeat Acheron without anyone being under the effect of grip for more than 5 seconds.

    Mini-bosses
    -Kill all 3 Atomos within 3 seconds of each other.
    -Kill all 3 Vassagos within 5 seconds of each other.
    -Kill all 3 Vassagos without letting any napalm reach the middle or any balloons exploding.

    **After completing all these achievements, you could get one of those crystals to put in your FC house**

    All of this could/would apply to future hard-mode dungeons and current ones as well.
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    Last edited by Thriar; 01-06-2014 at 10:25 PM.

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    Please post any achievements you think would be fun additions to the game. It doesn't even have to be within dungeons and raids.

    Achievements don't have to be about time sinks but skill as well.
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    Hidden achievements.

    LotrO has done on them pretty well. Getting to the top of a building/hill or talking to several NPC.
    We once made a Kinship-Server-Event, the task was to kill 5 boars in every region to date. After they finished an achievment unlocked with the title "pork chopper". A good chunk of peopledidn't know it existed. Pretty funny.
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    I like Random-Number-Generator
    'cause I'm able to accept that
    a dice normally has six sides
    a pyramid has 5 sides
    a toast has 2 sides
    AND I CAN'T PREDICT WHICH SIDES IT FALLS TO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feilina View Post
    Hidden achievements.

    LotrO has done on them pretty well. Getting to the top of a building/hill or talking to several NPC.
    We once made a Kinship-Server-Event, the task was to kill 5 boars in every region to date. After they finished an achievment unlocked with the title "pork chopper". A good chunk of peopledidn't know it existed. Pretty funny.
    Ah, a fellow former Lotro player. Which server did you play on?
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    On a former Codemasters Server. Maiar, if you know it.

    Did anyone of you play Warhammer Online? Its tome of knowledge was by far the sickest incarnation of an achievement system, aaaaaaaaaand I loved it.

    - get killed by falling
    - get killed naked
    - slay guild leaders
    - visite XYZ at noon/midnight/...
    - find a monsters hidout
    - survive a PVP battle with less then 10% life

    And almost all achievements couldn't be seen initially. That alone was glorious.
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    Last edited by Feilina; 01-07-2014 at 11:08 PM. Reason: typo
    I like Random-Number-Generator
    'cause I'm able to accept that
    a dice normally has six sides
    a pyramid has 5 sides
    a toast has 2 sides
    AND I CAN'T PREDICT WHICH SIDES IT FALLS TO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feilina View Post
    On a former Codemasters Server. Maiar, if you know it.
    Yeah, I know it. I've been playing on Morthond before I made the switch to FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thriar View Post
    -Defeat King Behemoth without any bombs, towers, or giants destroying a comet.
    lol .

    Quote Originally Posted by Thriar View Post
    -Defeat Acheron without anyone being under the effect of grip for more than 5 seconds.
    lol .
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    Last edited by Hocchi; 01-06-2014 at 10:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hocchi View Post
    -Defeat King Behemoth without any bombs, towers, or giants destroying a comet.
    lol

    -Defeat Acheron without anyone being under the effect of grip for more than 5 seconds.
    lol
    I realize some of those achievements would require a FC to coordinate, but they are skill based achievements and doable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lament View Post
    Impossible until 24 man raids can actually be fully organized beforehand.

    After that, still damn near impossible - that's too many people to coordinate on such a precise level. One person getting lag could ruin everyone's chances.
    They're only meant for the hard-core and yes they're achieveable. Not everyone is meant to do them. As I stated, this is for FCs who this content is on farm and still looking for a further challenge and a reason to farm said content. I'm not going to assume so I'm going to ask. Have you ever played another MMO with achievements similar to what I proposed?

    There's a work-around to queue for CT with only your FC. You all choose the same language(not english) and confirm in a VOIP with each leader after everyone except the leaders of the three parties. Once you are 21/24 with everyone in the same pop, you can confirm that each party is from your FC.
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    Last edited by Thriar; 01-08-2014 at 08:31 AM.

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