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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    Exactly who is acting entitled here? You and these other "raiders" (what an overinflated title that is) seem to want access to better gear walled off from those "dirty casuals" who have other things going on in their lives to be bothered with being enslaved by a Coil group for iLv 90 gear. What I see here is people with Goodyear Blimp-sized egos being upset by the fact less active players can earn good armor by saving Tomes earned through various activities (it's 2.1 now, update your talking points. People are doing Duty Roulette, Labyrinth of the Ancients, and other stuff for Myth Tomes) and can do Coil with their FC or Linkshell mates without needing to be part of some group led by a 14-year-old with a Napoleon Complex.
    You are quite the extremist. I'm not sure how the "raider" title is overinflated. It is literally who you are if you raid semi consistent. I'm not even sure how this turned into a "dirty casual vs. glorious raider" debate. It really isn't, and the system I suggested is still quite friendly to casual raiders (you know you can be both right..?). As I said before, our current Myth system should have been an i80 equivalent, philo being the simple i70 farm.

    This gives people a sense of accomplishment for completing a raid. You can do all things in this game in i80, (if not i70) so I'm not sure how a casual, who doesn't even raid, is left out of things. Will they get i90 without raiding? No. That is the point of raiding. You get the best gear in game, by doing the hardest content in game. That is the only real reason you'd need the higher tier anyways.

    Your insults are laughable though. Please continue on, it makes the ground you try to stand on even weaker. Or you could chill out, and realize there is room for reasonable discussion, and maybe even some middle ground in life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traek View Post
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    Coil turns 1-4 isn't difficult. I had more difficulty getting my PLD relic on titan HM XD. Plus the only tank item not in turn 1-4 apart from the weapon is the hat. So gearing up a tank isn't hardcore, it's lolcore! (depending on RNG of course:P) Just because you have allagan on your WAR (our tanks from 2 clears have 4 pieces between them) from a not that difficult dungeon (t1-4). Just means RNG has been nice to you.

    Two weeks running coil 1hourish 2 times a week and on turn 4 with a casual fc. Coil isn't "hardcore raiding" it's an 8 man dungeon XD

    I still play Rift for raiding. 2x20 peep tier 1, 2 10 peeps tier1, 1 10 peep tier 2, 2x20 peep tier 2 dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Coil turns 1-4 isn't difficult. I had more difficulty getting my PLD relic on titan HM XD. Plus the only tank item not in turn 1-4 apart from the weapon is the hat. So gearing up a tank isn't hardcore, it's lolcore! (depending on RNG of course:P) Just because you have allagan on your WAR (our tanks from 2 clears have 4 pieces between them) from a not that difficult dungeon (t1-4). Just means RNG has been nice to you.

    Two weeks running coil 1hourish 2 times a week and on turn 4 with a casual fc. Coil isn't "hardcore raiding" it's an 8 man dungeon XD

    I still play Rift for raiding. 2x20 peep tier 1, 2 10 peeps tier1, 1 10 peep tier 2, 2x20 peep tier 2 dungeons.
    I'm confused on why you are taking shots at me. I don't think in any of my responses I even mentioned the word hardcore. In fact I said pretty casual raiders could do well with the system I was suggesting. This implies already that casual raiders can clear content, as they'd have to clear content to get Coil level tokens or Allagan gear. So I'm not really sure what you are trying to say. If you are trying to say it isn't the hardest content in the game, I'd say you are flat wrong. Titan HM was not hard at all IMO (I did this less as pld/war then any of my other 7 Relic jobs), and I fail to struggle at even Titan EX.

    I'm not claiming to be hardcore, but T2-T5 is certainly harder then most anything. The new EX primals can certainly compete for that title, but they are i90 equivalent, and obviously should. So again, what is your point? Gearing up any class through Coil isn't hard except that one piece they need from T5, it doesn't have anything to do with being a tank. Cool story though bruh.

    *Edit* I guess in T2 I think of *pre enrage* method. My group never has and never will use enrage, and I guess one can argue it is a simple/easy fight compared to many others based on this. Still not sure why SE hasn't patched it, as it completely defeats the whole fight design. To each their own on that one though.
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    Last edited by Traek; 01-16-2014 at 08:52 AM.