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    Mazi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrystWildkey View Post
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    Yeah the main excuse for RNG that people like to throw around is "Welcome to MMO's" to which I just think "Soooo MMO's are just going to stay outdated grindfest for no reason other then because of its genre?"

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    I agree with you in terms of the relic being kind of a sick joke to get but that is more so the fault of SE for making the primals too easy for such a good item not so much that having to earn it is bad.

    I also agree that yeah killing something for a super rare piece of gear is fun at times but that is mostly only for vanity things like Mounts that you can show off, when it comes to gear I just want to kill X and because it was tough and I proved that I can whoop its ass multiple times that I deserve my piece of gear.
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    Last edited by Mazi; 01-10-2014 at 10:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazi View Post
    Yeah the main excuse for RNG that people like to throw around is "Welcome to MMO's" to which I just think "Soooo MMO's are just going to stay outdated grindfest for no reason other then because of its genre?"
    You need to think about why you're calling it "outdated". There's no advanced technology or technique to a difference between tokens and traditional RNG. And yes, there will always be games that utilize the RNG system because it's traditional. If the game does not support the token system (currently), then that's just how this game is (currently). It's one thing to wish/hope the game will use the token system, it's another to think that their intended design is "outdated" when that's not even an accurate thing to say. Maybe they want it to be traditional to the genre? As odd of a concept as "traditional" might be these days. Would you consider a game like Super Meat Boy outdated because it just uses archaic control schemes and basic gameplay mechanic? No guns to shoot things with, no flashy special abilities, etc. I would hope you wouldn't.

    I can easily get on-board a token system, but I dislike it when people think their ill-informed perspectives on matters are the only way that things need to be done. You're essentially telling everyone in the world, game designers or not, that using the RNG system is never the right thing to do. "It doesn't matter what reasons there may be, if something needs to rely on random chance, your game is a failure." That's pretty much the gist of what's being implied in your (everyones) argument on the matter. So much for creative freedom these days I guess. And just to clarify, creative freedom does not have anything to do with exclusively being related to revolutionizing something.

    *edit: this came off a lot more hostile than intended lol. Apologies on that.
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    Last edited by Welsper59; 01-10-2014 at 11:11 AM.

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    Every mmo that will be released, people will complain about rgn when nothing goes their way.
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    Hmm...

    So.. people are complaining about RNG.. begging for a token system. Others saying they should exist together. Here to solve everyone's problems is... MYTHOLOGY!!

    Hey folks, ever feel bad for having that pesky darklight (insert item here) for several weeks and not get a drop from coil/CT? Take a look in your currency tab! You have something there called Mythology, that you acquire weekly! This token-like form of currency is used to get around that horrible HORRIBLE*cough* RNG!

    You're welcome...
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