Remember the arguments during beta?

[SirSaber]

Who cares if they left ?
They left because they don't like the game point.

SE does a free weekend to show 2.1 off to people who didn't subscribe again, WoW does this all the time, it's called marketing strategy.

People don't like a game they stop playing it, it's totally normal.

And Alipo, your whining and whatnot won't move SE an inch.
You don't like to get Achievements?, don't like to level all jobs?, don't like to level all crafts?, don't want to wait for the story to continue?, don't have fun playing the game?

Then yeah, try another game, there is no use paying for a game where you're getting bored imo.
Same goes for everyone, pay only if you like the game.

What I can't stand is people making 26748718 posts & threads about others leaving because of X reason and how they'll also leave blah blah blah.

Don't wanna play? Go, don't come to the forums to nag about it.

[epryn]

Who cares if they left ?
They left because they don't like the game point.

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Don't wanna play? Go, don't come to the forums to nag about it.

I have to disagree with this sentiment. The organization of complaints and issues with gameplay is rather terrible on the forums, so it's just generally a mess, and we've seen no evidence as yet that SE is paying any attention to what its playerbase is saying could use improvement or suggestions for new/revised content, but simply not saying anything isn't productive. I like most of the game, but there are things that I feel can be done better. If I, and those like me, aren't willing to try to get through to the devs and instead just leave, then a) the odds of any such changes happening become basically zero, and b) the population drops without any significant chance of recovery. Then it boils down to the remaining playerbase being only those who will take whatever they're handed.

I want the game to be better, something I would continue playing long term, but that probably won't be the case unless certain problems are fixed. If you're fine with everything just the way it is, or willing to trust that without you saying anything, the devs will just magically know how to make the game better, then fine, don't say anything. I would rather state my issues on the off chance that vocalization will improve the odds of problems being addressed.

Making the playerbase increasingly niche is not something I would want, and I doubt it's what the devs would want, either.

[Sapphic]

The organization of complaints and issues with gameplay is rather terrible on the forums, so it's just generally a mess, and we've seen no evidence as yet that SE is paying any attention to what a very small minority of the playerbase who actually post is saying could use improvement or suggestions for new/revised content, whereas the huge majority are playing the game and don't even bother with the forums whatsoever.

Fixed by putting into perspective.

Very smart move by SE doing this. For obvious reasons with ESO beta weekend.

oh btw:
We wanted a kick, we got a kick.
we wanted a sort button, we got a sort button.
we wanted a hairdresser etc.

So no, they don't listen:P And if you mean they didnt add 1000s new quests, hundreds more overworld encounters. 10s of new dungeons. Then you need a reality check.

[epryn]

Fixed by putting into perspective.

Very smart move by SE doing this. For obvious reasons with ESO beta weekend.

oh btw:
We wanted a kick, we got a kick.
we wanted a sort button, we got a sort button.
we wanted a hairdresser etc.

So no, they don't listen:P And if you mean they didnt add 1000s new quests, hundreds more overworld encounters. 10s of new dungeons. Then you need a reality check.

Rein your ego in a second and ask when I ever said anything about adding tons of content. Did I do so? Did I complain at all about dungeons or quests? No. Every complaint I've made about the current state of the game has been in regards to crafting classes and the economy, and my post did not indicate anything different. Also, I believe Wil Wheaton said it best..."don't be a dick."

[Sapphic]

Rein your ego in a second and ask when I ever said anything about adding tons of content. Did I do so? Did I complain at all about dungeons or quests? No. Every complaint I've made about the current state of the game has been in regards to crafting classes and the economy, and my post did not indicate anything different. Also, I believe Wil Wheaton said it best..."don't be a dick."

You stated they dont listen to the playerbase and what they ask for, I showed you examples of where they have. If you meant, they didn't listen to what you said and implemented it, you should have made that more clear. Also it takes time, they could have easily seen the suggestions about the economy and craftning/harvesting classes and taking what works on board for later updates. Just because they havn't added something now doesn't mean that they aren't working on it or talking about it.

If you said they should be more transparent with their overall roadmap of ARR for maybe the coming year, giving out more info of how they will improve the economy, value of crafting etc and other content. Then I would agree 110%.

[epryn]

You stated they dont listen to the playerbase and what they ask for, I showed you examples of where they have. If you meant, they didn't listen to what you said and implemented it, you should have made that more clear. Also it takes time, they could have easily seen the suggestions about the economy and craftning/harvesting classes and taking what works on board for later updates. Just because they havn't added something now doesn't mean that they aren't working on it or talking about it.

If you said they should be more transparent with their overall roadmap of ARR for maybe the coming year, giving out more info of how they will improve the economy, value of crafting etc and other content. Then I would agree 110%.

Fair enough that there are examples of suggestions taken. My original point was more suited to generalizations (ie. that telling the devs what you do/don't like and how you think the game can be improved is better than saying nothing and just hoping they do good things). As far as specifics go, I felt that this wasn't the thread to delve into those, and it wasn't my intention to start soapboxing specific issues.

[Woggers]

Snip.

I will have to disagree. The devs are still actively taking our ideas and putting them in the game. The increase of penalty for leaving a duty was increased from 15 to 30 mins, something that was asked in these forums. The implemation of the in server party finder. The decrease cost of FC Housing. So yeah they are still listening.

[LengluiLiang]

Who cares if they left ?

SE does a free weekend to show 2.1 off to people who didn't subscribe again, WoW does this all the time, it's called marketing strategy.

This .

[Vanidin]

Who cares if they left ?
They left because they don't like the game point.

SE does a free weekend to show 2.1 off to people who didn't subscribe again, WoW does this all the time, it's called marketing strategy.

People don't like a game they stop playing it, it's totally normal.

And Alipo, your whining and whatnot won't move SE an inch.
You don't like to get Achievements?, don't like to level all jobs?, don't like to level all crafts?, don't want to wait for the story to continue?, don't have fun playing the game?

Then yeah, try another game, there is no use paying for a game where you're getting bored imo.
Same goes for everyone, pay only if you like the game.

What I can't stand is people making 26748718 posts & threads about others leaving because of X reason and how they'll also leave blah blah blah.

Don't wanna play? Go, don't come to the forums to nag about it.

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