Remember the arguments during beta?

[Taruranto]

I think it's more the other way around, die hard FF11/FF fans left/are leaving since this game is basically WoW theme-park garbage and the ppl left are the WoW fans (I mean, look at the forum, people using WoW terminology and shiet all over the place).

[WizardShotTheFood]

I think it's more the other way around, die hard FF11/FF fans left/are leaving since this game is basically WoW theme-park garbage and the ppl left are the WoW fans (I mean, look at the forum, people using WoW terminology and shiet all over the place).

And nobody of value was lost.

[Quiz]

And nobody of value was lost.

Gotta agree with this. Too many people wanting XI-HD. The WoW terminology gets to me a little bit but the absolute scum (who until now I reserved for the WoW-heads that played other games for a bit JUST so they could bash it)are the lowest forms of life that are the XI-2-HD-heads. You love XI and it's system so much? Go play that.

[Eldryan]

I think it's more the other way around, die hard FF11/FF fans left/are leaving since this game is basically WoW theme-park garbage and the ppl left are the WoW fans (I mean, look at the forum, people using WoW terminology and shiet all over the place).

This statement is probably correct. I stuck through 1.0, and convinced over half a dozen former FFXI friends to try ARR at launch. After a couple months we're down to just 2 left, including myself, and I will be gone soon too. As for those who suggest the XI die-hards go back to that game, for most of us FFXI died when the abyssea expansion came out. ARR wasn't the game I hoped for, and all I can do now is vote with my wallet.

Maybe a year from now I might pop in on another free weekend trial to see what's up.

[Zakalwe]

[snip] (I mean, look at the forum, people using WoW terminology and shiet all over the place).

You mean like DPS? (Which SE uses on its DPS Roles Forum name.)
Or aggro? (Which SE referrs to with the big 'A' for its aggro meter.)
Or rez? (See the name of the scholar/summoner rez skill.)
Or Pally for a Paladin nickname when chatting in mumble or game chat? (Sure not a formal SE abbreviation and I'll be glad to say pld instead as soon as I can figure out how to pronounce a nickname with no vowels.)

Actually, these terms are pretty generic mmo terms. I've never played WoW but have used them in other games.

[Colt47]

You mean like DPS? (Which SE uses on its DPS Roles Forum name.)
Or aggro? (Which SE referrs to with the big 'A' for its aggro meter.)
Or rez? (See the name of the scholar/summoner rez skill.)
Or Pally for a Paladin nickname when chatting in mumble or game chat? (Sure not a formal SE abbreviation and I'll be glad to say pld instead as soon as I can figure out how to pronounce a nickname with no vowels.)

Actually, these terms are pretty generic mmo terms. I've never played WoW but have used them in other games.

My advice for those interested in the origins of many of the terms and elements in MMO RPGs is to go back and take a look at the pen and paper scene. Maybe even buy up a few of the current popular pen and paper RPG games like Pathfinder. RPGs in general owe much of their development to the humble table top books, and even today MMORPGs can't compete with the sheer flexibility and creativity found in them.

[EvokerKeii]

I think it's more the other way around, die hard FF11/FF fans left/are leaving since this game is basically WoW theme-park garbage and the ppl left are the WoW fans (I mean, look at the forum, people using WoW terminology and shiet all over the place).

Damn Reds, they don't understand us Blues, am I right?
Look at them, over there...all red and stuff. It makes me sick.