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    I feel the devs are playing catchup most of the time and are trying to implement their vision for FFXIV in spite of a lot of negative reviews, I think your estimates are pretty close to the mark and I don't think we are able to influence them at this time. They will listen to us only when people make enough noise or leave. Square have already profited to the extreme from FFXIV they went from millions in the red to millions in the black according to their September financials, they have absolutely no reason to listen to us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cid_Grim View Post
    100% of this thread is speculation.
    Your point?
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    The ease of pulling statistics out of the aether is why these forums have no intelligent conversation


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    The developers have an obligation to listen to player feedback, but you as a player are not entitled to govern how they develop their game. You pay to play it, not to make it.

    In other words, you may be right or wrong, but just because you don't like the allocation of content doesn't mean they should do anything about it.
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    Last edited by Edellis; 01-10-2014 at 02:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post
    The ease of pulling statistics out of the aether is why these forums have no intelligent conversation


    Edit:

    The developers have an obligation to listen to player feedback, but you as a player are not entitled to govern how they develop their game. You pay to play it, not to make it.

    In other words, you may be right or wrong, but just because you don't like the allocation of content doesn't mean they should do anything about it.
    To opine using statistics and estimations in the forum precludes the possibility of intelligent conversation is ridiculous, to reason abstractly is fluid intelligence and deals with complex information such as statistical possibilities. It's a higher reasoning function.

    And no, the developers do not have an obligation to listen to us, but if they are wise they will consider what we have to say, the future of the game depends upon keeping the player base happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scamperoo View Post
    silly words
    Making an argument more verbose dies not make any less incorrect. These "statistics and estimations" mean nothing as they're completely made up and do not reflect the player base at all. News flash, the forums themselves are not even a proper sampling of what the player base is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyhound View Post
    Making an argument more verbose dies not make any less incorrect. These "statistics and estimations" mean nothing as they're completely made up and do not reflect the player base at all. News flash, the forums themselves are not even a proper sampling of what the player base is.
    People who are intimidated by more than rudimentary English often hide behind the word verbose.

    The points you seem to be missing are that 1. He specifically says, "I want to know what you spend time on," and 2. "right now this is what I see," and 3. "Feel free to post your idea of what percentages should be allocated to development of each of the in-game activities," He never proposed his estimates belonged to anyone but himself.

    News flash! Your argument is fallacious.
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    You guys are aware that 76% of all statistics are made up, right?
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    I like how the patch is already on every player's hands, and yet OP thinks the same percentages still apply. Not only that - the division between his points is distorted to say the least.

    Well, it's his statistics - but I surely wouldn't like to have a glance on what he thinks Squeeny's dev HQ is like.
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    What is wrong with people? The OP created a thread with his own Ideas (right or wrong) invited people to speculate with him and give an opinion to have 90% of people lambast him for even having a unique thought or a different point of view. No wonder this forum is such a waste of space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scamperoo View Post
    Your point?
    I thought my point would be fairly obvious to anyone that has obtained a high school education, but allow me to elaborate.

    When you pull statistics out of your butt, nobody is going to take you seriously.
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